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To: A_Former_Democrat

For the longest time, my father would hire illegals to help adminster our ranch. My mother died when I was a toddler and I was raised by a the wife of one of these. I was speaking Spanish before I spoke english. Their children were for all intents and puposes my brothers and sisters. Their children were all born here. All grew up to be true, blue patriotic Americans. One of the girls is a doctor. All the boys served stints in the Army, one even retired after 20+ years of service. They have not one drop of sentiment or loyalty to Mexico. Under what you propose, these people would never have been allowed to live here and America would have been worse off for it.

My father was not the only one around here who did this. The ranchers would hire these people then sponsor them as residents. Many of them had children who were born on American soil when they were illegal. I knew their children. Went to school with them. Played football with them. Proud Americans, every single one of them.

The Anchor Baby arguement is really not that realistic. You would not stem the tide in the least as most of the illegals coming over are not families but single.


43 posted on 04/04/2010 1:36:26 PM PDT by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: Bad Jack Bauer

I had an ex-girlfriend who’s farmer father had a similar story. But let me ask you:

What’s the purpose of having immigration laws?

What was the purpose of “born in the USA” law?

Who should be in control of who comes here . .and who stays here? The USA or foreigners?


44 posted on 04/04/2010 1:41:08 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Bad Jack Bauer

Families certainly have been coming up in droves for the past several years. Entire extended families have moved here, many don’t bother to learn English and don’t show loyalty to this country in the way most that crossed years ago did. I remember the time when what you are saying was true- not anymore- at least on most of the border. Remember the huge protests a few years ago in favor of illegals getting amnesty? Few of those people showed any loyalty to the U.S. while carrying the Mexican flag. Many of the illegals now do not want to become part of the U.S. in any way- they want this part of the country to become part of Mexico.

Another issue not everyone is aware of is that many Mexican women, that have NEVER lived here and never intend to live here cross the border to have their babies so the baby will be citizens and qualify for any and all benefits in the U.S. including education. Many hospitals on the border have had to close because they were overwhelmed by all the Mexican citizens wanting to have their baby in the U.S. but no one was paying the medical bills.

All along the border students from Mexico cross to attend school in the U.S. and since the children are citizens- it is hard to legally keep them out of U.S. schools. It would make a huge difference if babies born here were NOT automatically citizens.


49 posted on 04/04/2010 1:57:30 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: Bad Jack Bauer
"For the longest time, my father would hire illegals to help adminster our ranch. My mother died when I was a toddler and I was raised by a the wife of one of these. I was speaking Spanish before I spoke english. Their children were for all intents and puposes my brothers and sisters. Their children were all born here. All grew up to be true, blue patriotic Americans. One of the girls is a doctor. All the boys served stints in the Army, one even retired after 20+ years of service. They have not one drop of sentiment or loyalty to Mexico. Under what you propose, these people would never have been allowed to live here and America would have been worse off for it. My father was not the only one around here who did this. The ranchers would hire these people then sponsor them as residents. Many of them had children who were born on American soil when they were illegal. I knew their children. Went to school with them. Played football with them. Proud Americans, every single one of them."

Jack, we all have stories like that. Those are NOT the people we're talking about. This is a tsunami of millions coming over now, and they're much more socialistic than the folks (AMERICANS) you speak of. The new 'reconquista' believes this nation is his to claim. This is a new and VERY different culture in Mexico & the rest of the 3rd world.

"The Anchor Baby arguement is really not that realistic. You would not stem the tide in the least as most of the illegals coming over are not families but single."

Not so. Half of illegal aliens don't work. They work the system, and there are between 300000 & 450,000 anchor babies born each year,depending on the source you look at. Many countries including Turkey and Mexico have special tourism trips for birthing in the USA. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2470631/posts

55 posted on 04/04/2010 2:46:15 PM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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