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To: Bad Jack Bauer; AuntB
It you who has trouble reading... which explains a great deal. It was never intended that ANYONE who sets foot on our soil and happens to have a baby is birthing an American citizen. That doesn't compute for foreign diplomats. It doesn't compute for those vacationing here. It doesn't compute for those here on temporary VISAs... their children are not automatically citizens based on the soil alone. Their parents must also owe their allegiance to our land. So said our Congressional masters when they passed the 14th... see what AuntB wrote above...

Your solution to expel the parents and let them keep their kids only if the kids renounce their citizenship is ridiculous and inhumane.

18 posted on 04/04/2010 11:10:50 AM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: pgyanke; Bad Jack Bauer

“Your solution to expel the parents and let them keep their kids only if the kids renounce their citizenship is ridiculous and inhumane.”

It’s a better solution than what we have now. How is it ‘inhumane’? They can take their little jackpot babies home with them or leave them here.


20 posted on 04/04/2010 11:15:40 AM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: pgyanke; Bad Jack Bauer
Your solution to expel the parents and let them keep their kids only if the kids renounce their citizenship is ridiculous and inhumane.

Actually, Bad Jack was saying that the parents should renounce the baby's citizenship... not the baby, who is incapable of such an act.

29 posted on 04/04/2010 11:34:48 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: pgyanke

If the parents are here legally, I am all for it. If the parents are here for good, then being born on American soil is good enough. I am not arguing the semantics of the law here, just stating my view. Even if a child is born to someone on holiday, the child should be an American. It should not in anyway mean that his parents status is bettered because of it. It should make no difference if the child is an American or not to his parents immigration status. In fact, the child should be deported along with the parents since he can’t make his own decisions. But, if there are relatives that have legal status, that child, as an American, should be allowed to stay.


30 posted on 04/04/2010 11:44:05 AM PDT by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: pgyanke

Take a honk at Wong Kim Ark. The law is real simple. If a child is born in this country, and his parents do not fit into two exceptions, the kid is a natural born citizen and can grow up to be President Pedro.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html

parsy, who says it will take an amendment to change this


31 posted on 04/04/2010 11:45:48 AM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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