Posted on 04/03/2010 2:31:08 PM PDT by Tigen
(IsraelNN.com) The United States administration once again urged the government of Israel and the American-backed Palestinian Authority to promote dialogue on Friday...The American government, and much of the international community, strongly advocates an Israeli surrender of Judea, Samaria and most of Jerusalem to the PA.
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It wont happen ! What say you?
I also support the United States dividing into two states.
It wont happen ! What say you?
Actually, I think it will happen. I see that during the Tribulation time, the Temple area (for one example) is divided and that a portion of it is for the control of the Gentiles, as John is measuring off the Temple area (in the book of Revelation).
Furthermore, I also see that a portion of Israel must escape from the land to be protected in the wilderness for about 3-1/2 years, in the area that is in Jordan.
It does appear to me that the land of Israel is going to be divided and trampled and the Israeli people are going to be under severe persecution during that coming and future time.
In the meantime (and before that coming time) there will be a period of peace, as that's how it's described before the Antichrist comes to power.
I don't know exactly how this intervening time -- between now and that future time is going to work out.
But, there are prophecy teachers that pose Psalm 83 as the outline for a future peace that Israel has with its immediately surrounding neighbors. And then, at a later time, there is the God/Magog War of Ezekiel 38/39. It's this Gog/Magog war that involves Iran, Turkey, Russia and some other Muslim nations as allies together, in the invasion of Israel. That will come later, after the Psalm 83 war that establishes peace in the land of Israel.
Israel is not out from under the judgment of God at this time. And there is still more that God has in store for Israel.
It will be at the time of the establishing of the Kingdom on earth, when the Messiah of Israel returns to this planet and establishes His one-world government over all the nations in the world -- that Israel will achieve its full boundaries, as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob promised it.
It may be time to revisit that one. I was suggesting we can break it down by counties, blue counties go to obamaland, red counties go to the constitutional US. And then we can clean up the isolated counties by trading and relocating anyone who wishes to move, but most can just stay in their own counties.
LOL ... well, I don't think an Apartheid-style scenario is going to work in the United States... No matter how well-intentioned people may be, I don't see any coming "hot revolution" coming. The best I can see is voting people out at the voting booth.
As I'm sure you knew, I was joking...although only to an extent. I don't know about a hot revolution...I do see an unsustainable shift to totalitarianism that is primarily, but not exclusively, being installed by democrats. I honestly see a real possibility of an economic collapse...and I am dead serious about that. If that occurs, all bets are off.
America is being torn between two ideals...one is essentially some form of communism/socialism that sees a big nanny state as the ultimate authority in directing even minute details of our lives and in giving that ultimate state power the authority to give and take away rights. If the Declaration of Independence is correct, that ability rests with God...so the progressives are attempting to declare themselves god.
the other side is a mix of constitutionally rooted individuals along with those who haven't thought through the implications of all of the policies and debates that are now raging in this nation. Now it may be that they are just lazy, or maybe many are just not equipped to deal with the deep philosophical issues that are in play.
In reality, if they divided the US along the lines I suggested, the vast majority of the US would be retained by the conservatives...most big cities would belong to the Obama liberals...and they'd have no ability to generate sufficient food and materials for their populace. They probably wouldn't admit it openly, but they'd have to face that they are incapable of existing without the fruits of the labor of conservatives.
This is exactly the two-state solution the administration/regime seems to be working hardest for.
I don't think the progressives are considering a multistate result. I think they're convinced they can crash the US economy and install their "utopia" in the rubble of America with, of course, them holding ultimate and unchallenged power, and any elections that will be held after that will be a sham. But I don't think they're even thinking they could crash the whole thing and not come out on top of the whole enchilada.
With that I ask who will be in charge ? Ultimately? And I do agree Jordan which also is in the land given Israel!
How could anyone be so effing stupid, especialy the U.S. The Palis have vowed NEVER to recognize a Jewish state, and they don’t stutter. Alll they are interested in longer range rockets and a RAT in D,C. to run cover for them.If the arab world ever does destroy Is. it will be with the full support of the RATs.
With that I ask who will be in charge ? Ultimately?
Well, if I understand the question right... ultimately, God is in charge and always has been since the beginning of history.
BUT, that doesn't mean that others don't get to carry out their agendas in this world, too. It happens all the time. God just allows certain things to happen in order (many times) to bring it out in the open for others to see too. God already knew and didn't have to "be shown" to Him -- but we don't always see what is hidden in other people's hearts.
Besides that, it's clear that Satan will be given complete control over this earth at a particular coming time in the future. But, even though he has "control" (to do what he wants to) it doesn't mean that his control will succeed in doing what he wants to do.
Satan may have control of the world, but there will be a lot of other sinful people in the world, too, who will not always want to do what Satan wants to have done (hey! ... they're gonna all think they should run the world, doncha know ... LOL ...).
It will be like Satan trying to "run herd" on a bunch of wild and crazy hyenas out there in the world.... all you'll get is total chaos...
In the end, God will allow this evil to come to its maximum, and then He will bring His wrath upon the world, all the wrath that God has "saved up" from the beginning of mankind and its sinful condition. And after the full wrath of God is expended, saved up from the beginning of mankind -- then the Messiah of Israel will come back to earth to set up His one-world government and rule and reign over all the nations of the world, through Israel, the "head nation" at that time in the Lord's Kingdom on this earth.
And I do agree Jordan which also is in the land given Israel!
The only reason that I mention Jordan is that the Bible indicates that this is an area that seems to be independent and not in control of the forces that flood through the land of Israel. For some reason Jordan escapes that (certainly by the providence of God, in any case), and thus, Israel escapes to Jordan (at least those who are to be protected by God).
I just thought I should make that point, since I don't see Israel as having the full borders for the land given to it by God -- until the Millennial Kingdom of the Messiah of Israel sets up when He returns to earth (and this event is prior to that Kingdom being set up).
Read the headline and thought they meant California. That would have made 51 states and obama was only 6 short with 57 states..
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The Oslo Accords were not passed properly in Israel. There were passed because 3 MK’s belonging to a secular nationalist party, which had campaigned against land for peace, changed their votes.
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