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Army Secretary Says He's Met With Gay Soldiers
AOL News ^ | March 31, 2010 | Sharon Weinberger

Posted on 03/31/2010 12:45:53 PM PDT by DesertRenegade

Treading into the murky area of the post-"don't ask, don't tell" era, the Army's senior civilian leader told reporters today that he has met with soldiers who revealed that they were gay.

Such a declaration, at least in theory, could be grounds for the service members to be discharged from the military.

Asked at a breakfast meeting with reporters in Washington whether he had met with gay members of the military to solicit their views on the changes to the law that bans them from openly serving, Army Secretary John McHugh, a former Republican congressman from New York, said, "I have reason to believe I have, yes."

Defense Secretary Robert Gates last week eased enforcement of the Pentagon's policy on gay men and women in uniform, making it significantly harder to initiate an investigation into someone's sexual orientation and to begin dismissal proceedings. But the law still prohibits openly gay men and women from serving in the military.

"Don't ask, don't tell" refers to the 1993 law signed by President Bill Clinton that requires openly gay members of the military to be discharged. Gates' new order includes line-by-line revisions to the legislation, but leaves in self-declarations as a basis for being removed from military service.

Gates also asked for a review of issues associated with gays serving in the military by Dec. 1, in preparation for what is expected to be a push to change the legislation banning gays from serving. In the meantime, however, current policy still allows for dismissal of serving members who are openly gay.

The irony of the situation was not lost on McHugh, who explained that he was interested in soliciting the opinion of soldiers about gays serving in the military, and in the course of the conversation, some of the people he met with revealed they were gay. Since the purpose was to solicit their honest views specifically on this issue, "I didn't feel it productive thereafter to initiate disciplinary action," he said.

The private discussions were meant to garner their views on the proposed changes, according to McHugh. "If there was a common theme, it was, 'I just want to serve my country,' " he said.

While many believe the repeal of the ban on gay men and women in uniform is inevitable, given President Barack Obama's stated commitment to changing the policy, there has already been controversy over a high-ranking general opposing the change. Army Lt. Gen. Benjamin Mixon wrote a letter earlier this month to Stars and Stripes urging soldiers to oppose the proposed changes, a move that was greeted with sharp criticism from top Pentagon officials.

McHugh told reporters that while he also thought the letter was inappropriate, the general would not be formally reprimanded. McHugh said he was scheduled to meet with Mixon today and expected the issue to be closed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; aids; bho44; bhodod; dontaskdonttell; homosexualagenda; honorcode; lavendermafia; mchugh; shadowgovernment; sodomy; ucmj
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This is pretty outrageous considering the current policy is that avowed homosexuals are strictly prohibited from declaring their lifestyle choice, recruiting others, making sexual advances, or demanding sexual favors from young enlistees under their command. For McHugh to openly scheme with these homosexuals blatantly violates both the 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' policy and the UCMJ. Here we go again with Hussein Obama deliberately going against military rules and trying to weaken our armed forces.
1 posted on 03/31/2010 12:45:53 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: DesertRenegade

Did he tap his toes?


2 posted on 03/31/2010 12:46:21 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: DesertRenegade

How touching, sucking up that is.


3 posted on 03/31/2010 12:47:12 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: DesertRenegade
Army Secretary Says He's Met With Gay Soldiers

In bars? Rest areas?

4 posted on 03/31/2010 12:49:28 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: DesertRenegade

Being gay and in the military isn’t the problem; it’s the behavior that will follow the minute they quit booting them out. My two sons (Army and USMC) will leave the military as soon as they can if this happens.


5 posted on 03/31/2010 12:50:47 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: DesertRenegade

UCMJ??? When has that EVER mattered to Odumbo and his gang of communists???


6 posted on 03/31/2010 12:51:40 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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The most cogent analysis I've read against allowing homosexuals to serve and weaken unit cohesion was written by a Marine Lt last year: Repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell Would Be a Disaster
7 posted on 03/31/2010 12:51:41 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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What in the world???? Since when is any body's sex life anyone else's business? I am sick of this.

How about this...It's private stuff...keep whatever you do to yourselves!!

8 posted on 03/31/2010 12:51:48 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: DesertRenegade

So what do the Marines think of this mess??


9 posted on 03/31/2010 12:55:45 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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Army Secretary Says He's Met With Gay Soldiers

I just bet he has.

10 posted on 03/31/2010 12:58:30 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: DesertRenegade

Met them in gay bars.


11 posted on 03/31/2010 1:01:41 PM PDT by Carley (Are you better off than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: DesertRenegade

Did he remember to cup the...

...oh, never mind.


12 posted on 03/31/2010 1:02:32 PM PDT by Bon mots
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"I didn't feel it productive thereafter to initiate disciplinary action," he said.

Well since you don't follow the rules and think you can do whatever you personally think is best--it is your duty to resign Mr. McHugh.

13 posted on 03/31/2010 1:03:52 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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General Colin Powell said it best: “I think it would be prejudicial to good order and discipline to try to integrate gays and lesbians in the current military structure. Skin color is a benign, nonbehavioral characteristic. Sexual orientation is perhaps the most profound of human behavioral characteristics. Comparison of the two is a convenient but invalid argument.”

Source: http://www.ontheissues.org/Cabinet/Colin_Powell_Civil_Rights.htm


14 posted on 03/31/2010 1:04:25 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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You could tell what Gates was a mile away. For some services, it won’t be that big of a deal. If I had to live in close quarters, I’d be gone, though. NCO clubs are going to turn into gay bars. If you were a man attracted to men where would you go? Into an organization of all men of course. It’s the problem the Catholic Church is having. People with a particular bent are attracted to orgnaizations where there a more opportunities to satisfy that urge. Are they going to permit enlistees to leave early because of this? There should be some religious out.
15 posted on 03/31/2010 1:05:15 PM PDT by throwback
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To: DesertRenegade

He should tender his resignation effective immediately!


16 posted on 03/31/2010 1:06:50 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
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To: Carley

Do you have any intelligent comments to add to this very serious discussion?


17 posted on 03/31/2010 1:16:51 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Redleg Duke

Army Undersecretary SADDAM IZER was not available for comment.


18 posted on 03/31/2010 1:22:17 PM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: throwback
"You could tell what Gates was a mile away"

If you are suggesting that he is queer, you are sadly mistaken.

19 posted on 03/31/2010 1:22:20 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: verity

I’m not, he’s a go along to get along. He’ll follow the bread crumb trail to wherever the power leads.


20 posted on 03/31/2010 1:28:11 PM PDT by throwback
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