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Arizona to Legalize Lane-Splitting, France to Ban it?
motorcycledaily.com ^ | March 30, 2010 | Gabe Ets-Hokin

Posted on 03/31/2010 7:29:11 AM PDT by Dick Holmes

One barrier to widespread adoption of motorcycles as transportation in the USA is that of practical advantage. In most places, two-wheeled transport offers few advantages over the four-wheeled kind. That's partly because unlike almost every other country on Earth, the practice of "lane-splitting"-riding in between lanes of stopped or slow-moving vehicle traffic-is outlawed in what is allegedly the Home of the Free. That means that in every state but California, not only do motorcyclists have to endure the privations of motorcycle travel, they also have to bump along at the maddeningly slow pace of traffic-snarled trucks and automobiles, even though there is little evidence that the practice of lane-splitting (if done in a safe and reasonable fashion) is particularly dangerous.

So kudos to the Arizona legislature for honoring the Goldwater legacy of personal liberty tempered by individual responsibility with Arizona House Bill 2475. Introduced by Harley-Davidson-riding Representative Jerry Weiers (say "wires," R-District 12), the bill will legalize, for a one-year probationary period beginning January 1, 2011, lane-splitting in stopped traffic. It will only apply in counties with populations greater than 2 million (according to 2006 population estimates, this is just Maricopa county, with the Phoenix-Glendale-Scottsdale megalopolis). The bill sailed through the Transportation committee (which Weiers chairs) and the House Rules committee, and has been read to the State Senate as well. It's looking like there is little opposition to the bill so far, which makes sense: those who lean to the left should like the message of encouraging the lower environmental impact of motorcycle transportation, and those on the right should appreciate the individual-rights angle.

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To: rahbert

Talk about motor cyclists,, there are plenty of cyclists out there giving the rest of them a bad name. I have lost count of the times I had a cyclists fly by me at what seemed like a 100 mph in a no passing zone! I have seen cyclists weave in and out of traffic and ride bumpers. Going to Virginia once there was some guy in a little suzuki or something passing cars on the left and right (going on and off highway!) traveling at an incredible speed!) A few years ago in our community some guy on a large bike killed himself and an entire family in a min van that was turning into a fair. They clocked his speed at 100+. He was decapitated instantly but the mini van burst into flames killing father mother children and a grandfather! Sickening!
Then I see some guy with a bumper sticker (kill a biker-go to jail!) makes me freaking mad!


21 posted on 03/31/2010 7:51:14 AM PDT by freemike (John Adams-Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker)
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To: absolootezer0

Next time you get a chance - Look up some video footage of traffic in India.

India is NUTS. These guys lane split at traffic lights too. It’s ridiculous and rude. I hope america NEVER gets to this point.

I’ll hand in my licence.


22 posted on 03/31/2010 7:52:43 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Dick Holmes

I did lane splitting, but only when the traffic was stop/go or at a crawl. And then I would stay focused on the cars, anticipating their actions for the asleep or hostile driver etc., and I did not go over 35 mph.

But when the freeway was jammed up it sure was nice to do.


23 posted on 03/31/2010 7:53:21 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: rahbert
You want to share the road like responsible drivers?

No!You want to do your own thing.Lane splitting is stupid and dangerous ,as is passing on the right.

If the car driver had moved to the right while you were illegally passing you'd be crying-if you survived.

I'm fed up with all the special people thinking the great majority of drivers following the rules should give way to the speeding egotist who flashes his headlights or rides a motorcycle.

Some people work hard to earn the disdain of the average driver.

24 posted on 03/31/2010 7:53:30 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Sloth

Your post is the key to the whole argument. Everyone should have ONE rule set to follow.


25 posted on 03/31/2010 7:53:39 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Dick Holmes

Hell, then why not allow EVERYONE to lane split. Cars, too. Those Smart cars could fit.

Sounds like another group requesting special privileges unavailable to others.

Maybe we could also allow mopeds and golfcarts on the highway system as well, while we’re, as was so nobly put, “honoring the Goldwater legacy of personal liberty tempered by individual responsibility “.


26 posted on 03/31/2010 7:55:07 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Sloth

In my view, lane-splitters are daring me to not hit them. Since the eyes in the back of my head don’t work as well as they used to, it becomes their problem, not mine. I check out the lane next to me, not the line next to me.

BTW, my son, who rides a motorcycle, is not stupid enough to lane-split.


27 posted on 03/31/2010 7:56:57 AM PDT by Pecos
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To: hoosierham

If some stupid cage driver is too focused on his telephone conversation to pay attention to the road, then he deserves to get passed, right or left. And if you dont like it, tough. I drive legally for the most part, but I won’t let the law stop me from necessary evasive action.

And getting mad and chasing me down the freeway is a race you won’t win.


28 posted on 03/31/2010 7:58:18 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: driftdiver
I used to ride and probably will again when I go Gault and stop working to support ObamaCare.

I have lane split, where legal. It's not done at high speed --- it's done in stuck traffic and you putt along at 15-20mph until free of the congestion.

The only trouble I've ever had are assholes in cars who open their doors to intentionally block you.
29 posted on 03/31/2010 8:00:23 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Celerity
Sure a lot of people who don't know what their talking about on this thread. Calif is the ONLY state that lane splitting is legal. So any reference to lane splitting in Boston or Dallas or any place where it is illegal is bogus. The drivers there are not expecting lane splitters so they are not alert to them. Second, Calif highway patrol studies show it is MUCH safer for a biker to split lanes than to sit in traffic and risk a rear end collision ... just ask the now dead and injured bikers from the Cave Creek Az incident a couple of weeks age. Third, as in much of Calif, it gets REAL hot in the Phoenix area. The side cases of a Harley get so hot that they burn the legs through the pants. Bikes are NOT made to sit in traffic. I've been splitting lanes in Calif for over 40 years and NEVER had a major incident. I ride my Harley 70 miles EACH way to and from work. Most of it splitting lanes. I ride with my CHP nephew during his off work time ... splitting lanes when necessary. I've seen and had FAR more incidents in a car than on the bike and I've been riding a LONG time.

Bikers DON'T have to split lanes so if you are a biker and don't like doing it ... don't.

Most of the squawking comes from cage (car) drivers that are just jealous that they have to sit in traffic while the bikers zip by. Oh and by the way ... there would be no traffic if the cage drivers would pick the "right" route

30 posted on 03/31/2010 8:04:29 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Would you hold my hand ... If I saw you in heaven ... to my angel in heaven)
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To: rahbert

Not to change the topic, but I was born in the NE Texas/SE Arkansas area and now I’m back after so many lifetimes. The area is still full of rednecks & mental cases. Mental cases and rednecks seem to make up most of the same group, and you better get out fast if they take a disliking to you ;-)


31 posted on 03/31/2010 8:05:41 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: libh8er

When you split lanes and die as a result, you can bet it will be the four wheeler’s fault.

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Given that the tactic is illegal in most states, your statement is false on its face.

When you perform illegal maneuvers in traffic and die, it’s your fault.


32 posted on 03/31/2010 8:06:11 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Sloth
Bicyclists are special-didn't you get the memo?

Monday on my way to the library ,a bicyclist completely ignored the stop signs at at 4-way intersection and shot through in front of me,looking neither right nor left.(Of course I've also seen the cellphone-using driver of an unmarked police car do a right turn without stopping at the same intersection.Before I made it safely to the library a large straight truck went through the stop sign at the very next intersection ,only slowing briefly,not stopping as required by law;and then two intersections further a young man pulled out in front of me from a side street.

Ironically there are signs warning that "rolling stops cost $134,complete stops are free;the police dept.".

I've been driving for 37 years and can't help but see the increased aggressiveness of drivers and riders.

33 posted on 03/31/2010 8:06:23 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Celerity
Everyone should have ONE rule set to follow.

Then you will be wearing a helmet while you drive your car.

34 posted on 03/31/2010 8:06:36 AM PDT by Osage Orange (A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud)
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To: absolootezer0
75mph is moronic, but doing 10-15mph when everyone else is going 0-5 is fine.

Been doing that for years. I guess you and I are the only rocket scientists who ride? And yes, Doctor, I have had a contretemps or two while doing it. Occasionally it wasn't the bad car driver's fault, either.

OTOH, I almost hit a moose, too.

35 posted on 03/31/2010 8:07:44 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama. He'll bring back States' Rights. In the meantime, this ain't gonna be pretty.)
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To: Celerity

Rode for years, and I’ve seen relatively safe lane splitting, and absolutely idiotic lane splitting.

If traffic is at a standstill, splitting the lanes at a cautious and reasonable speed is relatively safe... If you decide to split between two cars who are both doing 60 MPH because you are doing 85, this is just tempting death.

I have split lanes, but only when traffic was at virtual standstill, and then at a very cautious pace, because you never know when a fool in a cage will cut you off even in these situations.

Drivers just don’t look or expect a bike in the middle, so its not something I have or would do in any other situation. I’ve seen it done, and I’ve also seen the same guy that whizzed between me and a semi who were going in the 60s, a pile of pudding not more than 5 miles further up the road.


36 posted on 03/31/2010 8:08:37 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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I see, as always when the discussion turns to lane splitting, a lot of bike envy. “Whaaa, I’m stuck in traffic so you have to be stuck in traffic too”. Never mind that letting bikes filter opens up that section of road to another car and gets everybody through traffic faster. Maybe instead of whining about how unfair it is to let bikes share lanes you cage runners should go get a bike yourself.


37 posted on 03/31/2010 8:09:44 AM PDT by Gnomad
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To: Dick Holmes

When their bikes comply with noise regulations, I’ll consider some sympathy for granting them added privileges.


38 posted on 03/31/2010 8:10:17 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Anything worth doing, is worth doing badly at first.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Drivers just don’t look or expect a bike in the middle

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That’s why they call them lanes.


39 posted on 03/31/2010 8:10:46 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Celerity

i don’t understand how its rude. would you rather have me get out of the way, or be that one vehicle too many that makes you miss the next couple lights?


40 posted on 03/31/2010 8:11:22 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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