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Large Hadron Collider hits problems as scientists bid to start high energy collisions
The Telegraph ^ | 3/30/2010

Posted on 03/30/2010 4:10:05 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Problems with the Large Hadron Collider delayed scientists seeking to collide the first beams of protons in an attempt to learn more about the makeup of the universe and its smallest particles.

Dubbed the world's largest scientific experiment, the giant atom smasher holds the promise of revealing details about theoretical particles and microforces, scientists say.

Live webcast from CERN

But initial attempts on Tuesday were unsuccessful because problems developed with the beams, said scientists working on the massive machine.

That meant that the protons had to be "dumped" from the collider and new beams had to be injected.

"It's a very complicated machine and we have ups and downs," said Michael Barnett of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. "Right now we have a down."

Two beams of protons began 10 days ago to speed at high energy in opposite directions around the 27-kilometer (17-mile) tunnel under the Swiss-French border at Geneva.

The beams were pushed to 3.5 trillion electron volts in recent days, the highest energy achieved by any physics accelerator — some three times greater than the previous record.

The European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, is trying to use the powerful superconducting magnets to force the two beams to cross, creating collisions and showers of particles.

They could have been successful immediately, but such huge machines can be so tricky to run that it could take days.

When collisions become routine, the beams will be packed with hundreds of billions of protons, but the particles are so tiny that few will collide at each crossing.

Steve Myers, CERN's director for accelerators and technology, describes the challenge of lining up the beams as being akin to "firing needles across the Atlantic and getting them to collide half way."

He said the problems on

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It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.
1 posted on 03/30/2010 4:10:05 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

High energy collisions? They should come to our town on a Saturday night if they want to witness collisions ....


2 posted on 03/30/2010 4:11:21 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If someone calls me a racist I'll just tell them you're just saying that because I'm white ....)
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To: bruinbirdman

It was previously disabled by a bird dropping a hunk of bread on some part of the system, causing it to overheat.


3 posted on 03/30/2010 4:12:44 PM PDT by pennboricua
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To: bruinbirdman

it’s very bad to cross the beams.


4 posted on 03/30/2010 4:16:57 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: bruinbirdman

There was a blog report the other day that it destroyed all life on earth but I haven’t seen a follow up.


5 posted on 03/30/2010 4:23:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ( If you guys can stop Palin, Romney will not have any real opposition.)
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To: bravo whiskey
We already know what colliding beamers look like:


6 posted on 03/30/2010 4:25:03 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: bruinbirdman

How long they been working on this Rube Goldberg contraption? Imagine the number of F-22 planes they could build with the cash they dumped into this money pit.


7 posted on 03/30/2010 4:26:47 PM PDT by lurk
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To: lurk

High Energy Physics like this is actually a good investment in many ways. To better understand the nature of matter, gives us better machines.


8 posted on 03/30/2010 4:33:23 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: pennboricua
It was previously disabled by a bird dropping a hunk of bread on some part of the system...

Rumor has it that bird was...from the future...

9 posted on 03/30/2010 4:35:26 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: bruinbirdman

*****”It’s a very complicated machine and we have ups and downs,” said Michael Barnett of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. “Right now we have a down”*****

I’m thinking *up* will be Pompeii and Vesuvius!!!!!


10 posted on 03/30/2010 4:46:04 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Is firing up this collider a “green” thing to do?


11 posted on 03/30/2010 4:54:12 PM PDT by etcetera ("Jihad Is Compulsory." Mohammed)
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To: bruinbirdman
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12 posted on 03/30/2010 4:56:16 PM PDT by Pajama Blogger
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Maybe a black hole will swallow up the administration


13 posted on 03/30/2010 5:07:07 PM PDT by funfan
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Large Wish-It-Had-Run Kaleidoscope hits problems as scientists bid to start high energy collisions between paintballs using streams of hot air


14 posted on 03/30/2010 5:16:12 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: bruinbirdman

I bet it’s that damned time traveling pigeon again. As soon as they get rid of him, there he is, back again.


15 posted on 03/30/2010 5:18:07 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Pajama Blogger

For some jobs, only the big trowel will do.


16 posted on 03/30/2010 5:20:55 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Pajama Blogger

Where is that?


17 posted on 03/30/2010 5:24:57 PM PDT by Grig
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