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I thought the author makes a darn good point.

If CIA guys engage in combat as ununiformed civilians, I'm curious why they wouldn't be considered illegal combatants. Sauce for the goose and all that.

Anybody got an idea?

1 posted on 03/29/2010 11:17:08 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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The CIA guys don’t sound like they are on the field of battle. So, as long as the drones have USA markings, what’s the problem?


2 posted on 03/29/2010 11:19:47 AM PDT by circlecity
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It's the WaPo. Every single word they write is to be considered enemy propaganda.

The CIA answers to a definable chain of command therefore they are complying with the Laws of Warfare.

End of story.

3 posted on 03/29/2010 11:19:56 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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Excellent point here.

In addition to that, the use of civilian contractors in roles that meet any objective definition of "combat" operations has also raised some concern among folks who understand the risks of applying this label to detainees captured by the U.S. military.

4 posted on 03/29/2010 11:21:45 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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Since Obama is CiC, doesn’t this make him a War Criminal? When his term expires, shouldn’t he be turned ver to The Hague to face charges?


5 posted on 03/29/2010 11:21:58 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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Moreover, CIA civilian personnel who repeatedly and directly participate in hostilities may have what recent guidance from the International Committee of the Red Cross terms "a continuous combat function." That status, the ICRC guidance says, makes them legitimate targets whenever and wherever they may be found, including Langley.

Sounds like sedition and plotting against the government to me.

6 posted on 03/29/2010 11:24:35 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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Another self righteous secularist demanding we follow the rules of war while our enemies try to destroy the very country that makes those rules.


7 posted on 03/29/2010 11:24:42 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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Because they’re flying armed and marked aircraft?


8 posted on 03/29/2010 11:25:04 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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Been there done that. This is NOTHING new and is just hash over re-hash. Have you ever heard of Air America? The real one not the liberal spew radio station? Try Vietnam, try South America, try anywhere in the world combat is ongoing.


10 posted on 03/29/2010 11:25:41 AM PDT by Gaffer ("Profling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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The face presented to the enemy is the drone. It doesn't matter who is flying it. The drone is not unmarked. The drone is clearly identified as a US military asset.

No attempt to disguise the drone so that it could “mix” into a population of civilian drones was made./s

The intent of the unlawful combatant rules of uniform was so that combatants would clearly be differentiated from noncombatants - thus cutting down on noncombatant deaths.

There is no attempt to disguise the drone as a nonmilitary drone.

The analogy is weak sauce at best, for either the goose or the gander.

11 posted on 03/29/2010 11:25:47 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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You can’t have US Armed Forces regularly killing terrorists inside Pakistan. But the CIA is another thing.


13 posted on 03/29/2010 11:29:02 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (The money goes to the health care of people who do not even take care of their health.)
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We’ve been making this argument in JAG circles for years. I frankly have a hard time seeing how they’re not unlawful, or in violation of the “no assassinations” EO. But hey, that’s just me...

Colonel, USAFR


14 posted on 03/29/2010 11:29:54 AM PDT by jagusafr (Kill the red lizard, Lord! - nod to C.S. Lewis)
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If CIA guys engage in combat as ununiformed civilians, I'm curious why they wouldn't be considered illegal combatants. Sauce for the goose and all that.

The DUmmies, Code Pink, etc., are all big on this too.

Besides they are not trying to hide their status. What would declaring them as "unlawful combatants" accomplish?

15 posted on 03/29/2010 11:30:14 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Alfred E. Neuman for President! Oh, wait a minute ...)
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As long as they have an inentifyable chain of command, a nation-state they support and have some item of identifiable insignia, they are completely “legal.”

In RVN, for Road Runners, we wore black jammies (of course, 6'4” blue eyes, blond hair created a problem within 50 meters, but what the hell?!?!))

For insignia issues, a a US flag and the words “# 1 G.I. Property of Uncle F**king Sam” embroidered in dark OD thread on all clothing.

16 posted on 03/29/2010 11:32:35 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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WaPo and Gary Solis, quite a combo of the blame America first crowd.


17 posted on 03/29/2010 11:34:13 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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If CIA guys engage in combat as ununiformed civilians, I’m curious why they wouldn’t be considered illegal combatants.


Well if they get caught they could easy end for the rest of their life in a place like guantanamo without any trial. (And it would be “legal”) because they are not protected buy any law or something like the geneva convention.


18 posted on 03/29/2010 11:34:44 AM PDT by darkside321
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Hey! Obummer/Holder is amnesia`d deja-vu all over agin`.

This WashingMachine Poster has the deleterious disease too! Give him ObummerCaries!

My ancestors at Bunker Hill, Saratoga II and other battles wore no uniforms- they were just farmers with their varmint-poppin` muskets. Only one who had a uniform was Prescott. They were bloodied patriots.

"In August 1775, the King declared Americans in arms against royal authority to be traitors to the Crown. The British government at first started treating captured rebel combatants as COMMON CRIMINALS... Eventually they were technically accorded the rights of belligerents in 1782, by act of Parliament, when they were officially recognized as prisoners of war rather than traitors. At the end of the war, both sides released their surviving prisoners" [not in the MIDDLE of a War!]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution

23 posted on 03/29/2010 12:02:51 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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I was unaware that we stamped each and every bullet fired as US Military ordnance.


24 posted on 03/29/2010 12:08:15 PM PDT by Cyman
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they are fighters without uniforms or insignia

If there is a US insignia stenciled on the Drone they are cleared under any convention. This is a BS article.
25 posted on 03/29/2010 12:19:19 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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If CIA guys engage in combat as ununiformed civilians, I'm curious why they wouldn't be considered illegal combatants.

Are you under the impression that al queda, the taliban and the rest of the muzzie cutthroats wear uniforms, or are legal combatants?

Holder and 0bamao want to treat them as if they are, but under the Geneva Convention, they do not qualify. The best course of action for the muzzies:

KILL 'EM ALL AND LET GOD SORT THEM OUT!

28 posted on 03/29/2010 12:47:11 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (der Fuhrer 0bamao's goal: "To Control the People ..." - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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Dasimplesolution.

A win for the Pentagon in the Turf War.

All Drone Ops to be run by soldiers.

End of stupid controversy.


30 posted on 03/29/2010 1:13:42 PM PDT by swarthyguy (Join ACFANS - Alleged Conservatives For A Nanny State. www.acfans.com (Ha!)
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