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How will ObamaCare affect my 401k?
Vanity | 3/28/10 | self

Posted on 03/28/2010 8:53:50 AM PDT by HDCochran

I know that ObamaCare will impact the profitability and growth of investments in my 401k, but does it affect it even more directly? How are capital gains and dividends from stocks held directly in 401k treated and affected by the new medicare charge? What about from stocks in mutual funds held in 401k?

Will I be TRIPLE taxed?


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To: aMorePerfectUnion

ditto.


21 posted on 03/28/2010 9:24:54 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: mtrott

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2126622/posts


22 posted on 03/28/2010 9:24:54 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: Roccus

Yeah, but that article was from 2008 when 401k and IRA balances had taken a 40% hit, and the politicians were able to make it sound like they were doing it so altruistically to protect the public from the vagaries of the market.

Those balances have now rebounded dramatically, so their argument has lost a lot of its merit.


23 posted on 03/28/2010 9:30:03 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: HDCochran

Even if they don’t seize 401Ks and IRAs, they will for sure dilute their values with the printing press.


24 posted on 03/28/2010 9:31:45 AM PDT by farmguy
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To: HDCochran
This is an interesting read from Neal Boortz:

http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2010/02/the-government-wants-your-reti.html

25 posted on 03/28/2010 9:39:23 AM PDT by Bronzy
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To: mtrott
Those balances have now rebounded dramatically, so their argument has lost a lot of its merit.

Do not cloud the issue with common sense and logic!

The Government sees the looming deficit in Social Security, Medicare, gov't pensions, etc and sees the money in IRA, 401k and other plans. It sees the money in private pension plans. It sees the money in savings accounts, CDs and what-have-you. Now, fast forward to Nov 2010. Let's say that there is a major upheaval (provided there IS an election) in Congress, but not a veto proof one. Exactly what will stop a bunch of lame duck Senators and Representatives from doing whatever they damned well please WRT your and my money?

26 posted on 03/28/2010 9:43:44 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: Jagman
“First off, the 401K program will be renamed the 4Q program, which will systematically syphon off every penny of your money to provide sunglasses for polar bears. And if you complain, your friendly local totally overpaid government bureaucrat will reply, 4Q!”

First I laughed when I read your post. Then I cried, because although you were being facetious, it's probably not too far from the future truth. I am sick of giving my hard earned money to those who didn't earn it.

27 posted on 03/28/2010 9:46:29 AM PDT by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: Roccus

“Exactly what will stop a bunch of lame duck Senators and Representatives from doing whatever they damned well please WRT your and my money?”

Hopefully, the fear of what will happen in 2012, if they pull something like that.


28 posted on 03/28/2010 9:47:25 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: Frantzie
There is about $12 trillion in personal savaings, IRAs, 401K, etc. Our debt is about $12 trillion

I had not seen the numbers so eloquently put before. Thanks for sharing this.

McCain lost his way. The things you have stated are true about McCain-Feingold. However, I will focus my anger on Obama and his leading the parade on our March to socialism. My energies will be focused at stopping this.

29 posted on 03/28/2010 9:51:10 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: mtrott
Hopefully, the fear of what will happen in 2012, if they pull something like that.

Pour hope into one hand and $#!| into the other and see which one fills up first.

They passed Obamacare under the threat of the coming election that is only seven months out. 2012 is an eternity away.

30 posted on 03/28/2010 9:52:32 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: Roccus

We have a ROTH IRA...paid the tax up front back some time ago (we could see the handwriting on the wall)...and they won’t get any more of our $$ on those funds.


31 posted on 03/28/2010 9:52:41 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

If they want it....they’ll take it.


32 posted on 03/28/2010 9:55:23 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: mlocher

If McCain wins - you have just put another ally for Obama in power. You have to remove anyone who supports Obama as quickly as possible. We are running out of time. MCCain put us in this situation. I am amazed the slack people cut him.

We HAVE to have people who will stand up and fight or we are dead. Your money, property, freedom will be gone. Our side is too soft like they are in some 1950s dream world were everything will be okay, “well McCain is a nice old guy”....We are dead if people do not wake up.

If you have children or grandchildren there future will be gone. Not ten years from now but this year.


33 posted on 03/28/2010 9:56:08 AM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: HDCochran

I read last week that they were going to tax savings, I’ve been trying to figure out what that meant, but I believe that means your 401K.


34 posted on 03/28/2010 9:57:36 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Roccus

No, they cannot simply TAKE it.


35 posted on 03/28/2010 9:58:00 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Your strategy consists of a plan instead of mindless panic. Good for you.
36 posted on 03/28/2010 9:58:09 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

McCain and Graham-nesty will vote for it too.

“Oh but we have to remain loyal to the old Navy man from AZ even though he has the illegals digging pits for our bodies for Obama’s firing squad. We just need to take the bullet for McCain”

People are so dumb.


37 posted on 03/28/2010 9:58:42 AM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: austingirl; HDCochran
Don’t worry about it - the dims will be coming to take the whole damn thing.

Exactly. Count on it. They'll do it in the name of "fairness" because you were able to get rich "at government expense" (meaning you got a tax break) while others had to suffer (whatever they mean by that).

At which point, for me, all rules about civility go out the window.

38 posted on 03/28/2010 10:01:02 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Joe McCarthy was right. He was just early.)
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To: farmguy

Yup, I really wish I knew how to convert the money I’ve worked hard for into a vehicle the govt can’t seize.


39 posted on 03/28/2010 10:05:16 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: SumProVita
No, they cannot simply TAKE it.

......yet.

40 posted on 03/28/2010 10:10:03 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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