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To: ZULU; conservativesister
You were saying ...

If it can be proved he is NOT an American citizen - I would think he COULD be removed from office - AND HUSTLED OFF TO PRISON!

Well, if one could prove that very thing... that he was not born here in the United States -- yes, you would have something concrete.

BUT considering that the very state agency that produces proof (by way of printing out a certified copy of a Birth Certificate) says that Obama was born here, that's not going to happen.

The State of Hawaii, the ones who print out the ceritified copy of a birth certificate, if one is required by a court of law for Obama -- has already said that Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born citizen.

I don't think anyone is going anywere with the "birth certificate" issue... :-)



To see this yourself, first, you go to the main State of Hawaii, Department of Health webpage (as shown below in the first link, then you go to the Archived Press Releases (as shown in the second link) and lastly, you go to the actual press release from the State of Hawaii, Department of Health, in PDF format. You'll notice that all the links are the official website each one tracks to the next one, and to the actual press release itself.

State of Hawaii, Department of Health webpage

State of Hawaii, Department of Health, Archived News Releases

State of Hawaii, Department of Health Press Release, July 27, 2009
[viewable as a PDF file of the official State of Hawaii Press Release]


It is the following information, presented here text (not formatted exactly the same way, but all the same words), on that PDF file, with the official State of Hawaii seal on it...


DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

News Release

LINDA LINGLE
GOVERNOR


CHIYOME LEINAALA FUKINO M.D.
DIRECTOR
Phone: (808) 586-4410
Fax: (808) 586-4444


For Immediate Release: July 27, 2009 -- 09-063

STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

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As far as addressing the issue from an official State of Hawaii pronouncement, since they are the holders of the original information, and have certified as a statement from the State of Hawaii (again the original maintainers and certifiers of that information) regarding the birth of Barack Obama -- this seems to wrap it up.

It doesn't get any more original or any more certified than this, as far as state records are concerned.

74 posted on 03/25/2010 1:51:59 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
That settles nothing.

He claims he saw it.

SO??????

Where is it????

I can claim I saw little green men on my front lawn.

Sorry. If its there and he wants to confirm its existence, HIS word its there is NOT ENOUGH. WHY didn't he produce a copy? Why doesn't Obama?

Just because this guy is a government official doesn't mean his testimony is unimpeachable.

78 posted on 03/25/2010 2:01:47 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: Star Traveler
So, if I want to know who is a "Natural Born Citizen," I ask Dr. Chiyomo Fukino? Cool.

Funny, but I don't seem to recall any Fukino around the Constitution.

Furthermore, having made that statement, she is bound, BOUND I say, by Hawaiian State Law (The Hawaiian Uniform Informtion Practices Act) to release the paperwork that led her to make that extraordinary statement.

Well I guess if an Orange County Lady Dentist can practice bad law, so can a Hawaiian Lady Doctor, but without benefit of a "pass" on the bar exam .

82 posted on 03/25/2010 2:08:06 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama. He'll bring back States' Rights. In the meantime, this ain't gonna be pretty.)
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To: Star Traveler

The only official vital record that proves place of birth is an original birth certificate, yet Chiyome Fukino intentionally avoided saying that Obama’s original birth certificate verified that he was born in Hawaii. Whatever records she cited, but failed to document, leave the question of birth wide open.

Second, there is no vital record in Hawaii that declares anyone to be a “natural born American citizen.” Either she was lying outright or was expressing a baseless opinion. Further, there’s no such thing as “natural born American citizens,” as in this country, you are a U.S. citizen, not an American citizen. It’s nice double speak, but not proof that Obama is eligible to be POTUS.


89 posted on 03/25/2010 2:18:33 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Star Traveler; LucyT; Beckwith; Fred Nerks
It doesn't wrap anything up. The law which dictates the issue is Article II of the constitution, not the Hawaii law which deems those born abroad to be US citizens. Federal law tales precedence over the Hawaii law and requires that the defacto birth of a candidate for the presidency be within the Untied States.

Being deemed born in the USA is not good enough for Article II of the constitution, which is exactly why Obama has sealed his long form birth certificate and its supporting records.

A great fraud has been perpetrated on America, and a great disconnect from the constitution is now taking place.

People who take any other position have an agenda. You have one. What is it? You either support the constitution and its precedence over all other law, and its plain meaning, or not.

If you do not support the Constitution , what are YOU doing here? Spinning and demoralizing people who do support the constitution?If your kind win this issue and the constitution continues to be trashed, you and all your kind will be looking out of your houses over gun barrels, hoping that the government will not come for you. Of course you do not see that, which is your kinds problem. Its just a little game, but it will have consequences far more grave than you and your like can possibly imagine.Look to Europe and that cycle of history from 1925 to about 1935. We are in a very similar period, and your like were very much evident on Europe, As a matter if fact their writings sound just like you and yours.And they caused untold suffering.

A nation of laws cannot survive on political correctness. Millions die.Genocide happens. That is exactly what you represent as a microspec in that kind of history.

Here on FR we seek to restore the constitution, not use state vital statistic laws to knuckle under to the the forces of discivilisation who seek to traduce the constitution.

Yiu are on the losing side of history. Supposing we have to go after the Obama Junta, and hound them into their bunkers and caves just as free people did to their tyrants in France, Spain, Germany and Italy.And if your kind want some of that, we will have plenty for you.

120 posted on 03/25/2010 5:52:31 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: Star Traveler

Star Traveler, read http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/ and then get back to me.

The Hawaii DOH has already indirectly confirmed that the best they have on Obama is not even good enough to be prima facie evidence.

Those are the facts. Let’s stick with the facts.


142 posted on 03/25/2010 7:10:46 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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