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What If the 50 States Joined Together and Formed a New Federal Government? (Vanity)
March 24, 2010 | lmsii

Posted on 03/24/2010 3:25:32 PM PDT by lmsii

Just a Question for Discussion.

What would the existing Federal Government do?


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To: lmsii
Yeah but those Manificent Seven other states lead by the Obama thuggery would kill the outlaws!

Or we can use this as an opportunity to create jobs. with the 100s of millions of Burkas, Black top hats, horse drawn wagons, (eergo green jobs), and turbins we could be rich free and move to the 58st through 59th states!

21 posted on 03/24/2010 3:36:08 PM PDT by Young Werther (wtih)
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To: lmsii
Works for me...but how about booting Vermont and putting Michigan, California, NY and a few others on probation until they decide to get with the program.

BTW, I love Vermont and many old time Vermonters (I used to live there). But the left-over hippies that have taken over (see Howard Dean) have ruined a beautiful place.

22 posted on 03/24/2010 3:36:33 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: rhombus
Actually it was already tried in 1860 (except for the slavery issue) the wrong side won and states lost.

There is a provision in the Constitution that permits this and it has an enforcement mechanism. States can call a constitutional convention at anytime. The enforcement mechanism is the 2nd Amendment.

23 posted on 03/24/2010 3:40:29 PM PDT by lmsii (Praying the country makes it to 2012)
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To: TexasNative2000

I would prefer Texas not do that.

I think the US should break up into 5 regional countries.

North East
South
Mid-West
Moutain Region
Pacific Coast

But we should all collectively maintain a military.


24 posted on 03/24/2010 3:41:04 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: lmsii

I don’t think we’d want ALL 50 States. Let the States join who are in favor of the U.S. Constitution, as intended, and those remaining can be the enclaves of political correctness, diversity, faggots and dykes, etc. The rest of us will live in the Country that was FOUNDED, without Federal interference.


25 posted on 03/24/2010 3:41:10 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: lmsii

Well, if anyone is paying attention to the Constitution any more, there is that little Article 1, Section 10 thing prohibiting States from entering into a Confederation. It does beg a philosophical consideration though if they feel the Federal Gov isn’t following the Constitution, would they be enforcing the Constitution, therefore, it isn’t a Confederation but they are just following the legal path and it is the feds that strayed.


26 posted on 03/24/2010 3:42:42 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: traditional1

It would not take all 50 states, only a majority.

Would the main stream media report on this type of movement?


27 posted on 03/24/2010 3:43:26 PM PDT by lmsii (Praying the country makes it to 2012)
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To: rhombus
"Would it be a violation of the Constitution?"

Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1869) was a significant case argued before the United States Supreme Court in 1869. The case involved a claim by the Reconstruction government of Texas that United States bonds owned by Texas since 1850 had been illegally sold by the Confederate state legislature during the American Civil War. The state filed suit directly with the United States Supreme Court, which, under the United States Constitution, retains original jurisdiction on cases in which a state is a party.

In accepting jurisdiction, the court ruled that Texas had remained a state ever since it first joined the Union, despite its joining the Confederate States of America and its being under military rule at the time of the decision in the case. In deciding the merits of the bond issue, the court further held that the Constitution did not permit states to secede from the United States, and that the ordinances of secession, and all the acts of the legislatures within seceding states intended to give effect to such ordinances, were "absolutely null".

Does that answer your question?

28 posted on 03/24/2010 3:43:44 PM PDT by DaiHuy (One Big Assed Mistake America)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Good list - let's make it easy and just call the regional countries what they would really be;

The Atlantic Coast Conference
The Southeastern Conference
The Big Ten
The Big Twelve
The Mountain West Conference
The Pac Ten.

:)

29 posted on 03/24/2010 3:43:53 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (This seems like fairly decisive evidence that the dream can, in fact, die.)
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To: mnehring

It would not be a confederation. It would be a new government, new constitution (that would like exactly like the old one, but hey).


30 posted on 03/24/2010 3:45:06 PM PDT by lmsii (Praying the country makes it to 2012)
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To: bayliving

Leave the USA with just Washington DC? We could start over from scratch— Get rid of Unions, Entitlements, Political Correctness, Debts. Let China hold worthless bonds (just like we did when the Commies took over China. Mexico did the same thing to us in 1910. Our credit would suffer but—if we go back to the gold standard and pump our own oil we would not need to spend anything. Knock the foreigners out of our industry by getting rid of NAFTA. Rebuild our factories and infra-structure. It would be hard and we would lower our standard of living for a while but—in the end it might be better— Who, what person could we build a nation around? Who is our new Washington?


31 posted on 03/24/2010 3:45:11 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: DaiHuy

Who is going to enforce it? The nine justices relying on precedent?


32 posted on 03/24/2010 3:47:02 PM PDT by lmsii (Praying the country makes it to 2012)
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To: lmsii

That’s the definition of a confederation. A group, such as states, joining together for a common purpose. Just like before the country existed, the articles of confederation were the original colonies who came together to create a new government.


33 posted on 03/24/2010 3:47:15 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: lmsii

I don’t think we could get all 50. Some of them appear to be too compromised by the present government to have any discernible sovereignty to act.


34 posted on 03/24/2010 3:47:25 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: T Minus Four

35 posted on 03/24/2010 3:47:58 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Bobkk47

Obama is no Lincoln.


36 posted on 03/24/2010 3:49:02 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: DaiHuy

Some of the questions, thanks. “one nation indivisible”


37 posted on 03/24/2010 3:49:11 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: AndrewB

“Do we have to take all 50?”

Well said. I’m thinking that the states making the “Red L” along perhaps with a few others not create a new government, we just kick out the liberal/socialist states and they can go form their own new socialist government. We (the Conservative States of America aka CSA) would of course as a friendly gesture allow those socialists who wish to fly or drive from one coast to the other do so for a nominal fee. Of course, they could always travel by way of Canada if they so choose. Hey! Just had a flash! Our socialist state friends perhaps could persuade the Canadians to annex them - birds of a feather and all that!


38 posted on 03/24/2010 3:50:29 PM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: tacticalogic
See post 32. Who is going to enforce it if a majority of the states form a new government?

Do you really think that Americans will fight against each other when the vast majority spread across all of the states are fed up with the current federal government.

39 posted on 03/24/2010 3:51:55 PM PDT by lmsii (Praying the country makes it to 2012)
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To: lmsii

Please clarify the born on American soil citizenship thing. No more anchor babies or illegal aliens.


40 posted on 03/24/2010 3:52:47 PM PDT by lone star annie
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