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US Forest Service admits putting surveillance cameras on public lands
Islandpacket.com ^ | March 15,2010 | Tony Bartelme

Posted on 03/22/2010 10:04:52 PM PDT by MamaDearest

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To: TigersEye

They probably have a lojack system on them like the high school laptops. If I saw one filming me I think I would be very pist off. I thought you had to post signs saying the area is under surveillance...


21 posted on 03/22/2010 10:45:29 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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To: TigersEye

Sorry but my behind is tattoo free. Now when I go hiking which is going to be rarely I will be looking for cameras.


22 posted on 03/22/2010 10:47:13 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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To: pandoraou812

You don’t know men if you think they need a tattoo to recognize a specific woman’s behind. ;^)


23 posted on 03/22/2010 10:51:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (Down a lazy river ...)
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To: MamaDearest

I would have dropped it in the nearest lake.


24 posted on 03/22/2010 10:51:50 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Freedom is worth fighting for.)
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To: This Just In

The Forest Service is set up to manage the timber as a federal asset and the rangers are like the security guards. Security guards use cameras.

A good question would be why do we need to manage timber as a federal asset? Especially when some of the “national forests” where I live (Southern California) have no harvest-able timber, just bushes and an occasional tree.


25 posted on 03/22/2010 10:53:02 PM PDT by married21
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To: TigersEye

Well I will camo paint that too then lol.


26 posted on 03/22/2010 10:55:56 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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To: married21

If someone were illegally logging timber would you need a camera to notice that? Or by ‘management’ do you mean they want to watch the trees grow?


27 posted on 03/22/2010 10:57:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (Down a lazy river ...)
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To: pandoraou812

I’m a pretty good artist.


28 posted on 03/22/2010 10:58:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (Down a lazy river ...)
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To: TigersEye

I will remember that & thanks.


29 posted on 03/22/2010 10:59:53 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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To: MamaDearest

I gave up trying to conform to the rules for camping and fishing years ago. Not just the stuff about packing human waste out. Fishing regs were like law school books, designed to discourage the casual sportsperson. I didn’t need the hassle.


30 posted on 03/22/2010 11:00:31 PM PDT by qwertypie
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To: married21

Security guards my eye. In this country, you are innocent until proven guilty. Despite popular belief, we, as American citizens, are treated as if we’re suspects.

And you can save the debriefing for some snot nose college freshman. My cibling’s one of the Green Gestapo.

Manage timber?! That’s rich. Yeah, and we all know how well the US Forest Service manages are public lands/timber. I mean, with all the fires destroying old growth forests due to overgrowth (which, due to the intensity of heat, can sterilized the soil), what would we have done if it weren’t for the Forest Service.

(We’ll ignore that small, tiny detail concerning our logging industry, and how well they had managed our forests before the Green Gestapo enlightened the general population, and put the breaks on those evil loggers)

Think outside the forest.


31 posted on 03/22/2010 11:14:13 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: TigersEye

You’d need the camera to notice the logging if you hadn’t been there lately, and aren’t going to get there any time soon. The rangers have big territories to monitor.

As I understand it, from reading a government agency handbook awhile back, the reason the Forest Service exists is not to please the public. It’s to manage the forest. The campgrounds and trails and such are all secondary in priority to that. You might well ask why the Forest Service exists or why it has this job. [I rather assume it dates back to a time when a lot of timber would have been needed for waging war.] But since the USFS does have this job, it may as well do it more cheaply and efficiently.


32 posted on 03/22/2010 11:22:01 PM PDT by married21
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To: married21

If they don’t notice the big trucks full of logs going out the few roads that enter forest lands then the cameras probably won’t help.


33 posted on 03/22/2010 11:25:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (Down a lazy river ...)
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But since the USFS does have this job, it may as well do it more cheaply and efficiently.

If they post signs saying under surveillance that is one thing. Filming a family camping trip is another. I am not ok with Big Brother filming me at all.

34 posted on 03/22/2010 11:31:58 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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To: pandoraou812

Amazing—so when nature calls, you “go behind the bushes” only to find that you’re on Candid Camera :(


35 posted on 03/22/2010 11:33:07 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: pandoraou812

Yes. They should post signs.


36 posted on 03/22/2010 11:33:46 PM PDT by married21
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To: pandoraou812

It wouldn’t be possible to monitor the national forests efficiently unless they put hundreds of thousands of cameras in them and that wouldn’t be cheap by any stretch of the imagination.


37 posted on 03/22/2010 11:34:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Down a lazy river ...)
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To: bushwon

It really is sad that we can’t enjoy the forests without wondering if we are being filmed. We have cameras on our traffic lights, at our stores etc. They are all over the d@mn place.


38 posted on 03/22/2010 11:36:12 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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To: TigersEye

No it wouldn’t be. I hope the bears rip them apart.


39 posted on 03/22/2010 11:37:15 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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To: married21; TigersEye

TigersEye ~ LOL!

married21 ~ “You might ask.....”

No, I don’t ask because I know we don’t need the US Forest Service. You read a government agency handbook?! That’s no different than saying you’re going to read the Communist Manifesto for an objective view on Capitalism. Or it like asking a salesman if you should buy his car? What’s he going to say, “No, it’s a lemon. Visit the dealer down the block”?!

Our country was never designed to appoint a federal government, let alone the Forest Service. And our Founding Fathers had good reason in designing America in this way. Centralized power corrupts. Period. Futhermore, it’s inefficient.

The rangers work for the taxpayer. Cheaply and efficiently?! What, did you read that out of the handbook too?

The US Forest Service is in place to survey innocent people, despite the well worn tales you’ve come to believe as truth.

Are you a Forest ranger?


40 posted on 03/22/2010 11:37:25 PM PDT by This Just In
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