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Obama, Kind(D-Wi) Talk Health Care at White House Meet(No Reimbursed on Quality Instead of Volume)
the Journal Sentinel ^ | March 4, 2010 | By Diana Marrero

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:24:02 PM PDT by Son House

Rep. Ron Kind and four other members of the moderate New Democrat Coalition met with President Barack Obama at the White House Thursday to press for additional changes to Medicare reimbursement formulas that they say would encourage quality over quantity in the country’s health care system.

Kind, a La Crosse Democrat, said he and others in the group want to see the country “heading down the road to payment reform.”

“We’re hoping to get more payment reform in the final version,” he said.

The health care bill approved in the Senate contains language that Kind said would eventually reward physicians based on health outcomes rather than the volume of procedures. But he said he wants to see that apply to hospitals as well.

Under the Senate bill, the Institute of Medicine would give Medicare a set of recommendations on how to change funding formulas to encourage better quality health outcomes. Medicare officials would have to agree to the proposals before some of those changes could start taking effect in 2013.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: care; health; kind; obama; wisconsin
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They cannot change the Senate bill. If the 15 members of the moderate New Democrat Coalition vote for this bill, it shows they have no good intent on provisions that would change how providers are reimbursed so that it is based on quality of care, instead of volume of care.

I believe Rep Kind and his 15 fellow moderate New Democrat Coalition have some explaining to do

1 posted on 03/20/2010 7:24:03 PM PDT by Son House
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To: GailA

Ping to this Rep Kind and his 15 members of the moderate New Democrat Coalition

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I’ll believe these Reps may have to be swayed, but we all know they can’t change the Senate bill

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/03/20/1325518/dems-find-more-votes-for-health.html

The latest bill contains Senate language that several Democrats said doesn’t do enough to overcome geographic disparities in Medicare reimbursements.

“We need to make sure providers are reimbursed more on value than volume,” said Rep. Ron Kind, D-Wis., who’s undecided how he’ll vote. Kind was one of 15 angry Democrats who met with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi Thursday about the issue.


2 posted on 03/20/2010 7:31:14 PM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: Son House

http://www.statesman.com/news/nation/late-push-yields-more-votes-for-health-bill-403891.html

House Democratic leaders were working to head off a possible revolt among 15 lawmakers upset that House-passed increases in Medicare reimbursements for local hospitals were removed from the legislation.

The latest bill contains Senate language that several Democrats said doesn’t do enough to overcome geographic disparities in Medicare reimbursements.

“We need to make sure providers are reimbursed more on value than volume,” said Rep. Ron Kind, D-Wis., who’s undecided on how he’ll vote Sunday.


3 posted on 03/20/2010 7:33:02 PM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: Son House

I thought they were voting on the Senate bill tomorrow? What is there to talk about. Once it passes (if, I guess) ain’t nobody in the administration going to willingly revisit it.


4 posted on 03/20/2010 7:33:21 PM PDT by WHBates
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5 posted on 03/20/2010 7:34:20 PM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: Son House
Better "health outcomes " does not necessarily mean better health or better care. It all depends on what the "Desired Outcome" is.
6 posted on 03/20/2010 7:36:31 PM PDT by Blackhawk (God said it, I believe it, That settles it. Forever. Amen.)
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To: Son House

7 posted on 03/20/2010 7:37:35 PM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: WHBates

I thought they were voting on the Senate bill tomorrow?

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Yes, that’s their problem;

“We need to make sure providers are reimbursed more on value than volume,” said Rep. Ron Kind, D-Wis

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It’s not in the Senate bill, Americans will be herded like cattle to make up for the ‘volume’, for reimbursements. Coming soon, to a hospital near you, thanks CONgress!


8 posted on 03/20/2010 7:39:35 PM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: Blackhawk

Exactly. It’s truly amazing that something this important in being decided on a partison basis and on so narrow a win or lose. Blows the mind.


9 posted on 03/20/2010 7:40:05 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: Son House

Well they can certainly vote against it can’t they? Gees these clowns need to be shown the door, along with Obama. I hope they’re not expecting the he’s going to fix it after they vote yes.


10 posted on 03/20/2010 7:49:11 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Ron Kind and four other members of the moderate New Democrat Coalition
By moderate, they mean, relative to fellow Demwits. Thanks Son House.
11 posted on 03/20/2010 7:57:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://themagicnegro.com/)
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To: bronxville
Yep a “Better Health Outcome” as determined by the Comparative Effectiveness Panel and the Gov. Oversight Administrator in Charge of Cost Reductions could determine that a “Better Health Outcome” for you would be you assuming the horizontal position at room temperature.
12 posted on 03/20/2010 8:01:08 PM PDT by Blackhawk (God said it, I believe it, That settles it. Forever. Amen.)
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To: Son House
Ron Kind’s district lives in the Shadow of the Mayo Clinic. Can't imagine he'd screw that bunch...
13 posted on 03/20/2010 8:27:29 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington

Good luck finding health care for you and your family, Ronnie, if you vote yes...


14 posted on 03/20/2010 8:28:45 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington

Got another one of them too;

Walz(D-Mn) Inclined To Vote for Health Reform Bill(Mayo Clinic wants Payment Reform Language)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2475626/posts

Mayo Clinic has been pushing for provisions that would change how providers are reimbursed so that it is based on quality of care instead of volume of care.

Under the Senate bill, the payment reform provisions only apply to providers. He said Mayo Clinic wants to see that expanded to include hospitals, which was included in the House bill.

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Their both going to have to vote NO, or we’ll all know they don’t care about quality over quantity, they can’t change the Senate bill


15 posted on 03/20/2010 8:32:33 PM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: April Lexington

Ron Kind is Nancy Pelosi’s puppet. Don’t count on him to do anything against “the Party”. He’s a great talker, but it’s because he practices daily by using both sides of his mouth.


16 posted on 03/20/2010 8:33:46 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: Son House
Such wonderful little socialists, worming their way in ever closer to the federal feeding trough.


17 posted on 03/20/2010 8:34:52 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Son House
The big clinics have dirty hands in this deal. Quality is subjective. Quantity is countable. They want 30 million new patients and an open US Treasury checkbook to pay for it. THIS is why this bill must fail. Pork. Pork. Pork. And borrow it all from the Chinese!
18 posted on 03/20/2010 8:36:24 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Son House
AS a physician all this talk of pay for quality instead of quantity is a bunch of Bullstuff. This just mean we will be following a .gov cook book of regulations and forms to prove we did quality. It will take more time and effort to get paid. If we do not follow orders by dotting every i then they will save money by not paying us. This kind of stuff drives me crazy. I have to justify by more paper work and getting the magical words in my dictation and the correct words on the lab slip or toooooo bad they will deny the payment. This is nothing but .gov ploy to not pay after the services have been rendered.
19 posted on 03/20/2010 8:37:51 PM PDT by therut
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To: ScubieNuc
WHAT IS IT with Minnesota politicians? Franken, The Pro Wrestler governor...Hubert H. Humphry the turd, er third...
20 posted on 03/20/2010 8:37:58 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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