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Degette on board with Executive Order?
NRO ^ | 3/20/10 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 03/20/2010 5:44:39 PM PDT by NoobRep

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To: Kahuna

So if Stupak & Co. cave, why does he need the EO?


21 posted on 03/20/2010 6:04:42 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: NoobRep

won’t this tick off the pro death group


22 posted on 03/20/2010 6:05:01 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: NoobRep
They are trying to get Obummer to sign an Exec Order to clarify abortion language, in order to Pacify Stupak’s gang. Obama, the king of Abortion rights will then just turn around and get rid of it after he’s stolen their votes.

Not ONLY do these Nimrods NOT read the legislation that they pass - but APPARENTLY, they don't read the Constitution either ...

Article II, Section 3:

" ... He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States ..."

NOWHERE does it say that he can change the language of legislation by fiat. In fact, the Founders EXPLICITLY did not want this ...

From Clinton v. City of New York [majority opinion authored by Justice John Paul Stevens]:

" ... There is no provision in the Constitution that authorizes the President to enact, to amend, or to repeal statutes. Both Article I and Article II assign responsibilities to the President that directly relate to the lawmaking process, but neither addresses the issue presented by these cases. The President “shall from time to time give to the Congress Information on the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient … .” ...

... Although the Constitution expressly authorizes the President to play a role in the process of enacting statutes, it is silent on the subject of unilateral Presidential action that either repeals or amends parts of duly enacted statutes. ...".

Stevens goes on to conclude that unilateral action by the President is unconstitutional ...

23 posted on 03/20/2010 6:06:13 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Miss Didi

If he gets the EO, he justifies his demand that Federal Funds can not be used for abortions.


24 posted on 03/20/2010 6:06:53 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: madameguinot

It means they don’t have the votes, they need to peel off some of Stupak’s no votes and Bambi is promising them an executive order and Degette has agreed not to make a stink about it.


25 posted on 03/20/2010 6:08:38 PM PDT by Valpal1 ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: PghBaldy

Thanks, I just did. Appreciate it.


26 posted on 03/20/2010 6:10:03 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: jackibutterfly

Good. SO much news, so little time. Have a good weekend, and Happy Spring!


27 posted on 03/20/2010 6:10:57 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: NoobRep
THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES!!

THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES!!

28 posted on 03/20/2010 6:11:33 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Kahuna

seems to me based on the post above that someone could immediately file a suit and get an injunction based on the EO being unconstitutional per Clinton v NY. By the time the case is decided, the Congress will have a different makeup and they won’t have the votes.


29 posted on 03/20/2010 6:13:24 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: Valpal1
US Conference of Catholic Bishops, National Right to Life and Family Research Council have all come out with statements saying that an Executive Order would not override the statute and, thus, does not solve the problem for pro-life Democrats.

See latest posts on http://thehayride.com/2010/03/no-bill-no-cbo-numbers-bad-sign-for-obamacare/

This whole maneuver by Pelosi and Obambi shows THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES. And, now with all these Catholic organizations coming out against the Executive Order, they're not likely to get them. On that news, I think I can go to bed and sleep tonight.

30 posted on 03/20/2010 6:15:02 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: WashingtonSource

That’s huge! Thank you


31 posted on 03/20/2010 6:19:29 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: NoobRep

I guess she doesn’t know about the LIAR./s


32 posted on 03/20/2010 6:21:59 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: blueyon

won’t this tick off the pro death group

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That’s what I was thinking. What EO could possibly satisfy the pro-lifers but not pi$$s off the pro-choicers?


33 posted on 03/20/2010 6:27:09 PM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: pennboricua
Right. Its like he sprinkles some magic dust and the pro lifers can go home and say that they extracted abortion prohibitions from the president. It doesn't matter that it is meaningless.

I hope the sincere naive people who voted for this criminal are watching all this.

34 posted on 03/20/2010 6:27:17 PM PDT by outofstyle (Anti-socialist)
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To: StarFan

Yeppers... ;)


35 posted on 03/20/2010 6:40:52 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: pennboricua

Unless I’m very wrong about this, that executive order isn’t worth the paper it’s written on until it has been published in the Federal Regs.


36 posted on 03/20/2010 6:44:07 PM PDT by jtill (We thank you, O Lord, that the future is bright, though the present is dark . [J. Coggan])
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To: NoobRep

Can the Prez issue an executive order prior to the passage of the law that backs it up?

Clearly he can rescind it afterward.

However if the law truly needs clarification, why not just put it in the bill?


37 posted on 03/20/2010 6:45:02 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Lmo56
Not ONLY do these Nimrods NOT read the legislation that they pass - but APPARENTLY, they don't read the Constitution either ...

Is it this obvious? /sarcasm

38 posted on 03/20/2010 7:19:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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