"Let us hide and let (Gov.) Palin and the Tea Party
fight alone for the American people
as we (RINOs) scheme to screw them all mercilessly once again."
So why is the MSM (including Fox) acting as though it’s in the bag?
Don’t count on Berry.
Zach Space (D., Ohio) (GOP +12) — pro-Stupak Amendment
I had read yesterday here that he was voting NO, has that been confirmed
Obama can not shut up.
"Let us hide and let (Gov.) Palin and the Tea Party
fight alone for the American people
as we (RINOs) scheme to screw them all mercilessly once again."
The irony here is that we’re all expecting Democrats to do something remotely conservative when conservatives are about as rare as ivory billed woodpeckers in the Democratic party. We’re pretty sure they exist, but we sure don’t see them much.
Unfortunately, the leftist moonbats within the Democratic party no longer need their more conservative counterparts. And that’s bad news. Particularly for conservatives. You see, the more conservative side of the Democratic party used to be able to keep the moonbats in check. Not any more.
Let me suggest something really radical here: conservatives should join the Democratic party and challenge the leftist moonbats in the primaries. Bring the fight to where the moonbats are.
Remember that most seats in legislatures and the House of Representatives change hands as the result of primary elections not general elections; gerrymandering has done a pretty job of making most seats “safe” for one party or the other.
Bela Pelosi is never going to lose her seat to a Republican. It just ain’t gonna happen. And if a Republican runs against her, she simply ignores the challenge, secure in the knowldege that in her district, there is little chance that a Republican will win.
The same cannot be said of a Democratic challenger. She would be forced to run something of an election challenge, depending on how formidable the challenge was. And here is the key point: it’s not so important that the conservative “Democrat” challenger win, it’s important that they run a just credible enough challenge to force her to spend significant resources to fight the challenge.
The Libertarians do a great job of running a reasonably credible campaign on a shoestring. And that’s all you really need to do: spend a little and make Nancy (or the leftist nutjob of choice) and their supporters spend lots more of *their* money. Just for example purposes, the cost of running a credible campaign for the House of Delegates here in VA is about $100K. It goes up exponentially for Congress. Make the moonbats spend the money to keep their “safe” seats.
We haven’t lost yet, but we haven’t won either. Everyone stay alert and involved. Please.
Michael Moore is unhappy with Bart Stupak.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/my-congressman-bart-stupa_b_506649.html
And Matheson looks like s strong possibility.
from
Update 3-20, 2:35 PM: The list below is of the thirteen remaining truly undecided members. Pelosi needs all thirteen to win. There have been others that still say they are undecided but have really given strong indications of how they will vote, and almost all of those are the “leaning yes” types. So Pelosi could still lose one or two that we don’t expect. Of these true undecided, though, the first five voted “no” last time, and this would be a flip. I feel very confident about Nye, who has consistently made signals that sound like “no,” and he is in a very tough re-election fight. I’ve also been counting Space, who told Democratic leaders yesterday that he was strongly leaning towards a “no.” Berry, Carney and Kanjorski are pro-life. Though they aren’t in Stupak’s group, it’s still a factor for them. Kanjorski would also lose jobs in his district from a Sallie Mae processing center which would be negatively affected by the student loan provisions in this bill. Baird and Tanner are retiring, and they clearly don’t want to vote yes, but I expect that they will if Pelosi needs them.
Baird, Brian
Davis, Lincoln
Matheson, Jim
Nye, Glenn
Tanner, John
Foster, Bill
Kanjorski, Paul
Michaud, Mike
Ortiz, Solomon
Carney, Chris
Pomeroy, Earl
Space, Zack
Schrader, Kurt
Keep praying that America prevails in this fight!
I admire him for that, in part, because my pro-life views are not as strong as his I feel. Shames me in a way, a good way. I will re-evaluate my beliefs in this matter.
I pray they don’t have the votes.
Does anyone have the phone numbers to call those on this list?
I’m thinking Nye and Space may be the guys to pound on a little extra then the others....
Glenn Nye
Phone: (202) 225-4215
Fax: (202) 225-4218
Zack Space
ph: (202) 225-6265
fax: (202) 225-3394
fax: (202) 225-3394
si needs all thirteen to win. There have been others that still say they are undecided but have really given strong indications of how they will vote, and almost all of those are the “leaning yes” types. So Pelosi could still lose one or two that we don’t expect. Of these true undecided, though, the first five voted “no” last time, and this would be a flip. I feel very confident about Nye, who has consistently made signals that sound like “no,” and he is in a very tough re-election fight. I’ve also been counting Space, who told Democratic leaders yesterday that he was strongly leaning towards a “no.”
I expect the bill to pass easily - simply because they will buy how many ever they want, or need - no matter what the cost.
Latest from firedoglake.com
Favor-204
Lean Favor-0
Oppose-205
Lean Oppose-10
Hence, 204 Yes votes vs 215 No/Leaning No Votes with 9 Unknown
No story, but it was updated at 3:44 pm ET, 3/20/09.
1. Order a pizza and have it delivered to the House of Reps.
2. They don't want to let the protesters in? I say, don't let the congress-critters out. Block all exits, bang on cars, toss trash in the drives.
They consider us to be unwashed peasants. Go medieval on the bastards!
Now that they obama has spoken all the anti Palin freepers will now start telling us how the bill is good because the media says it is and how the dems will now not lose in the fall!
