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For the BATF to be consistant, they would have to round up all of these toys that have been imported and order them destroyed. They won't do that because it would make them more of a laughingstock, as has been noted by many on Freerepublic. The sane thing to happen would be for a higher level supervisor to return the toys, make noises about an "honest mistake" and that the agency was "dedicated to protecting the public" and severly warn the Martins to insure that the proper orange tips were painted on the toys so that taxpayer dollars would not be wasted in the future.

As this is very simple and obvious for anyone who has ever been involved in this kind of a foul-up, what is the deal with agent Kelvin Crenshaw, that makes him so radioactive that no one is willing to correct his mistakes?

1 posted on 03/20/2010 6:56:27 AM PDT by marktwain
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“Yes, but “With minimal work it could be converted to a machine gun,” Crenshaw said.”

I will pay money to watch (from a safe distance) the first idiot who tries to put a mag of .223 through a converted toy gun.


2 posted on 03/20/2010 7:01:54 AM PDT by DemforBush (Somebody wake me when sanity has returned to the nation.)
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To: marktwain

The government and anti-gun tyrants are trying to make toy guns unavailable and so real guns less of interest to kids as they grow older;it reminds me of a fiction story in which the government outlawed and destroyed dolls because playing with dolls was the reason girls wanted to have babies.


3 posted on 03/20/2010 7:03:32 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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They are already a laughing stock...

I guess my knee-jerk reaction when I first see a BATFE on the back of a wind-breaker will be to walk by and laugh in their face...

Especially if they show up to a local gunshow...Which they have not done here in the Houston area as far as I know...

They don’t have the cajones to do that...


4 posted on 03/20/2010 7:05:08 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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Yes, but “With minimal work it could be converted to a machine gun,” Crenshaw said.

So can a lead pipe. They gonna start regulating plumbing supplies now?

5 posted on 03/20/2010 7:05:12 AM PDT by lowbridge ("We may be wrong, but the point is, we believe in what we're doing." - Joe Biden)
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From my cold, dead hands

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMqd5EQXD-g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCBvu9MX-po

6 posted on 03/20/2010 7:10:29 AM PDT by lowbridge ("We may be wrong, but the point is, we believe in what we're doing." - Joe Biden)
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Let's face it -- what do we expect these superegos to do -- admit they made a dumb@$$ mistake? Never happen.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

7 posted on 03/20/2010 7:23:22 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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what is the deal with agent Kelvin Crenshaw, that makes him so radioactive that no one is willing to correct his mistakes?

In center. I report, you decide. He also has a Facebook page that's worth looking at.

9 posted on 03/20/2010 7:28:19 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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> Yes, but “With minimal work it could be converted to a machine gun,” Crenshaw said.
With a little work you can convert an automobile axle into a gun.


10 posted on 03/20/2010 7:29:41 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (If you're not patriotic, you're nothing !)
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BATF...another federal bureaucracy out of control. shut them down. not only is it a waste of taxpayer money, it is also a threat to liberty
11 posted on 03/20/2010 8:09:12 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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If I understand correctly, these Airsoft guns are AR-15 replicas which have a pot-metal lower receiver. Do they have all the same fire control parts, ie hammer, trigger, safety etc in common with a real AR-15? I thought Airsoft guns have pneumatic cylinders and/or motors and batteries inside, nothing similar to a real AR-15’s guts. This sounds like clueless jackboots deciding the guns look too real.


13 posted on 03/20/2010 8:29:41 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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Toy guns fall no more under BATFE jurisdiction than teddy bears.

What about plastic lids with holes in them? BATFE regards them as suppressors.

15 posted on 03/20/2010 9:21:11 AM PDT by gundog (A republic...if you can keep it.)
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"With minimal work it could be converted to a machine gun,” Crenshaw said.

Yeah, they could disassemble the gun completely, throw away everything but the stock, and replace the components with a real gun.

This is ridiculous.

My son is an avid air soft player, and he has some very nice air soft guns. While they look and feel very close to the real things, the guts of the thing are completely unrelated to the components of a bullet-firing weapon. Even the barrel itself is made up of a bronze, thin-walled tube - nothing that would support the gases and stresses of firing live shells.

I've got to admit, though, these things are pretty cool. My son has a sniper rifle with a scope that can ping someone in the chest (or head) at a couple hundred yards. I've been tempted to join him myself, but then I'd feel a little funny running around the woods shooting at 15-year-olds!

25 posted on 03/20/2010 5:46:07 PM PDT by Magnatron
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Those toy guns were destined for a group of gang bangers who where going to use them to rob Toy stores of Monopoly money. I for one feel much safer that these deadly “weapons of mass destruction” are not being sold at gun shows to three time looser elementary school children. /sarcasm


29 posted on 03/22/2010 5:11:47 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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