Posted on 03/19/2010 4:56:11 PM PDT by chessplayer
What if Darwin's theory of natural selection is inaccurate? What if the way you live now affects the life expectancy of your descendants?
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
Go fly off in a UFO Quix for brains.
Figured your true colors would out sooner or later.
Thx.
Are you
REALLY ignorant of the fact that evolution has long been passe amongst the powers that be?
Panspermia or some such has replaced it . . . as will be publically outted when the critters are more overtly involved in the global government thing.
Until then, enjoy all that ignorance provided bliss that you can.
Have you decided if Reagan was part of the UFO conspiracy that controls the world yet?
When was the entire economy going to collapse again?
That a UFO kook aligns himself against me on the basis of “reason” I find infinitely amusing.
Is a gigantic UFO conspiracy a reasonable conclusion then?
But deciding that natural and predictable processes could have occurred just as they do today? Absolutely unreasonable!
It is to laugh.
Panspermia is not a substitute for evolution through natural selection of genetic variation, it is a “kick the can” down the line “solution” to abiogenesis.
Can you understand this, or should I explain it to you using smaller words?
No matter how life originated on this Earth, via miraculous intervention by God, by natural processes created and directed by God, by natural processes without God, or via LIFE FROM ANOTHER PLANET; it doesn't matter to the theory of evolution through natural selection of genetic variation.
No matter how life started, or where it started; it is subject to evolution through natural selection of genetic variation.
And how does your Panspermia hypothesis gibe with God calling for the land and the seas to bring forth life? Land and sea of a different planet then?
I didn’t say I agreed with panspermia or any such.
Should be interesting when your constructions on reality . . . your cosmological constructs crash wholesale.
I hope someone’s nearby to hold your hand.
“Panspermia or some such has replaced it . . . as will be publically outted when the critters are more overtly involved in the global government thing.”
By “the critters” you mean alien life forms, no?
I realize it’s hard for some to pay attention for longer than 2 seconds
and to keep up.
However, it’s nice when they try harder.
By “critters” you mean alien life forms, do you not?
You believe the world is controlled by a UFO conspiracy, do you not?
You claimed to be agnostic on if Reagan was part of the UFO plan for world domination or not, but come now, not much of a worldwide conspiracy if they let Reagan slip through the cracks!
Cracked. Definitely cracked.
I have no need to be redundant about things I’ve spoken to dozens of times.
It’s more fun to play with you.
It is humbling that you seem to remember more about my postings hereon than I typically do.
Nice you pay attention to SOMEthing.
I’m a bit curious, however.
Do you tend to relate to your family members similarly? Odds are that you do.
INDEED.
Evidently you have convinced yourself that God is "unaccountable and unpredictable." Certainly God is not "accountable" (to us). But it does not follow that He is "unpredictable." Indeed, if He were "unpredictable," there could be no reason, no logic, no natural law in the world. The natural law foundation of science — which posits the correspondence between the natural world and the world of the mind — would utterly collapse. And with that collapse, all ability to make predictions about anything also collapses.
I do not deny that the scientific method has produced "many hundreds of thousands of things of use." The operative word here: "use."
But human beings are more than the things they "use"....
Anyhoot, on earlier understandings, science was about the search for the truth of reality.
In what way does anything in the foregoing constitute a "straw man?" I'm just analyzing your statements.
Note to self, remember this one...
It is an anacronism to claim that any of the founding fathers were creationists, i.e. that they opposed the theory of evolution which had not yet been formulated.
The Declaration of Independence is not the product of creationist reasoning, but a recongnition of the natural rights of mankind.
Nowhere do I see in our founders thoughts the formulation that “Because the Earth and all species were created in their present form only six thousand years ago; thus governments are instituted among men.”
No, nothing of any practical use has come from Creationism.
Our founding fathers were not engaged in Creationism when they started our revolution, they were engaged in revolution.
“Ecclesiastical establishments tend to great ignorance and corruption, all of which facilitate the execution of mischievous projects.” [James Madison, letter to William Bradford, Jr., Jauary 1774]
What I mean by “unpredictable” is that once a creationist decides what “trick” God used to make things (like starlight) seem so very very old; it allows NOTHING by way of predicting what speed light will be in the future.
Humans are far more than the things we use.
But science creates things of use.
Creationism produces nothing of any use.
Science is a useful assumption that produces knowledge and value.
Creationism is a useless assumption that produces no knowledge beyond the answer the creationist already thought they knew, and produces nothing of value.
" The scientific community" is hardly the holy grail of truth and light these days.
I don't think it ever was and those who blindly believe science are fools. But science is science. Trying to package it with supernatural is fraud. The people behind Intelligent Design try to do exactly that.
The funny business at East Anglia University exposed behavior among "professionals" on both sides of the Atlantic that was utterly corrupt
Unlike voodoo, scientific observance must be observed and measured. Experiments that cannot be replicated are simply discarded. The same should be with "supernatural."
s it's doubtful the scientific method can reach to questions such as "design" and "intelligence" in the first place. Neither is a "direct observable."
Neither is "supernatural." So, peddling "intelligent design" as "science" is fraud, and has rightfully been exposed as such.
But just because they prefer not to ask such questions is no ban on me or anybody else to ask them
You can ask all the questions you want. You can even publish your own books too!
I am not a churlish, superstitious fool for so asking. Though evidently my "opponent" here would like to characterize me as such
There is no superstition in asking, but in the belief in the unknown as "fact."
YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A MAGNIFICENT example of "things of use [that] have come from creationism." Thank you so very much, shibumi!
It's anachronism to claim that they were not.
The atheist, Scottish "Father Of Modern Geology" James Hutton hadn't even posited uniformitarianism or deep time yet, that happened a decade or more later. The founding fathers, to a man including Jefferson, accepted the reality of a creation that was only thousands of years old, as well as the reality of a worldwide flood.
There was no basis for the millions, billions and even trillions of years required by the later conceptions of the TOE, at that time. That built up over time, after Hutton's time, as successive scientific assumptions required more and more time in order to be plausible.
Your “play” just makes you look like someone embarrassed to answer a simple question.
I remember your posts because I have rarely encountered such preposterous delusion. One tends to remember the outlandish and bizarre.
If my family were UFO kooks you best believe I would laugh at them, try to get them to answer about inconsistencies in their world view, and generally have fun with their delusions, much as I do with you.
But my family are all reasonable people and I get along with them perfectly. Thanks for asking!
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