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U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 5 (urgent vanity)
U.S. Constitution ^ | late 1700s | T. Jefferson

Posted on 03/19/2010 1:06:51 PM PDT by eartotheground

...the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.

(Excerpt) Read more at usconstitution.net ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; obamacare; pelosi; reid; rush; socialisthealthcare
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An attorney called Rush today with this gem. The house just needs a 20 per cent vote to call the question and have the Rats vote before they finish bribing everyone! Also, the Republicans motion should have been allowed since they only needed 20 percent.
1 posted on 03/19/2010 1:06:51 PM PDT by eartotheground
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To: eartotheground

I heard that, too! Did Levin say anything about it?


2 posted on 03/19/2010 1:08:44 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: eartotheground

Rush had Mark Levin on air immediately after her call. Mark shot the idea down.


3 posted on 03/19/2010 1:09:26 PM PDT by Stalwart
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To: eartotheground
Yeah, but I thought Levin came on and said this rule only applies once the bill get’s to the floor, and the bar is higher to get it to the floor.
4 posted on 03/19/2010 1:09:41 PM PDT by throwback (o)
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To: eartotheground
And right after Nancy's call, Rush spoke to Mark Levin who said that Congressional procedural rules and such make it a non-issue.

Not saying it should be, but Levin said it would seem so.

5 posted on 03/19/2010 1:09:53 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: eartotheground

I don’t think this means you can require a vote. I think it just goes to the question of when such yeas and nays (if there is a vote) must be recorded in the journal.


6 posted on 03/19/2010 1:10:30 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: dinoparty

That’s why people sue, to see who’s right and whose wrong - but more importantly, to delay things as long as possible. It could take years to figure this out!


7 posted on 03/19/2010 1:15:31 PM PDT by eartotheground
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To: eartotheground

What that means is if the Speaker were to call for a voice vote or a unanimous vote on a bill, a point of order could be raised to request a roll call vote. If 20% of the members present voted for a roll call vote, then the roll call vote must be held.


8 posted on 03/19/2010 1:23:13 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: eartotheground

Levin said this was mininterpreted by the caller, and that this provision cannot be used to call a bill to the floor that has not been presented. If this idea was as easy as it sounds, it would have already been considered.

No matter what, don’t lose track of the fact that once the Senate Bill passes the house, Pelosi will break the land speed record getting it to Premier Hussein to sign into Law. The so-called “reconciliation” does not have a hope in hell of passing the Senate, and if by some miracle the House coughed up a “reconciliation bill” it would call for the undoing of all the goodies that got the bill through the Senate in the first place.

Also, someone needs to corner Harry Reid and any other Dhimmie Senator that will speak into a microphone, and ask them what odds they give anything that comes out of the House for passing in the Senate, unchanged.

If this bill passes, it could set off an endless series of ping-pong between House and Senate while we are paying the taxes that “The Law” calls for. In addition, there is every reason to believe that there will be an endless series of “fixes” proposed in the coming years that will end up costing us many, many times the $2 Trillion that we know about now. These “estimates” of what the savings will be in 20 years are preposterous in the extreme, and there is no telling what this will ultimately cost even a year from now.


9 posted on 03/19/2010 1:24:26 PM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: Bean Counter

So basically we have lost the USA to the Leftist for good?


10 posted on 03/19/2010 1:32:04 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: eartotheground

Congress critters are ignoring Article II, Section 1, so why would it be surprising if they also ignore Article I, Section 5?


12 posted on 03/19/2010 1:39:28 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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“So basically we have lost the USA to the Leftist for good?”

No we haven’t. We need to continue the fight. We amy be winning.


13 posted on 03/19/2010 1:39:59 PM PDT by texmexis best
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To: yield 2 the right

We are watching a bloodless coup in process


14 posted on 03/19/2010 1:40:18 PM PDT by Breto (never accept the premise)
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To: All

Thanks for the encouragement, I really get depressed on occasion, with all of these Leftist and their dangerous antics.


15 posted on 03/19/2010 1:44:15 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: yield 2 the right

No, I think this is a misguided tactic if the goal is to prevent the bill from passing the House.


16 posted on 03/19/2010 1:45:07 PM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: Bean Counter

Thanks, I am fearful for my country like never before.
God, we need a miracle!


17 posted on 03/19/2010 1:53:04 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: DNME

You’re not allowed to say that.


18 posted on 03/19/2010 1:56:25 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: dinoparty; Bean Counter

Tried to catch the discussion in the background, but not sure Limbaugh’s caller, Nancy, who appeared to be well-credentialled, and Mark Levin were addressing the same point.

Art1, Sec 5 certainly does not empower either Chamber to disregard other provisions set out therein. I.e., the effort to have an unrecorded vote to protect Dems could be defeated.

Assuming the Sec 5 “any question” is synonymous with “any action” - including any “deeming” then a vote is required, or the 20% has been denied its constitutional right.

Was Nancy arguing no action – specifically, a deeming - could be taken by the House in the absence of a vote?


19 posted on 03/19/2010 2:07:46 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Wake up America! The Socialists are winning the long war against you and your Constitution!)
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To: yield 2 the right
So basically we have lost the USA to the Leftist for good?

Not for good. Read your US history, particularly 1860-1864. There are options.

20 posted on 03/19/2010 2:09:30 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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