Posted on 03/19/2010 1:06:51 PM PDT by eartotheground
...the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.
(Excerpt) Read more at usconstitution.net ...
I heard that, too! Did Levin say anything about it?
Rush had Mark Levin on air immediately after her call. Mark shot the idea down.
Not saying it should be, but Levin said it would seem so.
I don’t think this means you can require a vote. I think it just goes to the question of when such yeas and nays (if there is a vote) must be recorded in the journal.
That’s why people sue, to see who’s right and whose wrong - but more importantly, to delay things as long as possible. It could take years to figure this out!
What that means is if the Speaker were to call for a voice vote or a unanimous vote on a bill, a point of order could be raised to request a roll call vote. If 20% of the members present voted for a roll call vote, then the roll call vote must be held.
Levin said this was mininterpreted by the caller, and that this provision cannot be used to call a bill to the floor that has not been presented. If this idea was as easy as it sounds, it would have already been considered.
No matter what, don’t lose track of the fact that once the Senate Bill passes the house, Pelosi will break the land speed record getting it to Premier Hussein to sign into Law. The so-called “reconciliation” does not have a hope in hell of passing the Senate, and if by some miracle the House coughed up a “reconciliation bill” it would call for the undoing of all the goodies that got the bill through the Senate in the first place.
Also, someone needs to corner Harry Reid and any other Dhimmie Senator that will speak into a microphone, and ask them what odds they give anything that comes out of the House for passing in the Senate, unchanged.
If this bill passes, it could set off an endless series of ping-pong between House and Senate while we are paying the taxes that “The Law” calls for. In addition, there is every reason to believe that there will be an endless series of “fixes” proposed in the coming years that will end up costing us many, many times the $2 Trillion that we know about now. These “estimates” of what the savings will be in 20 years are preposterous in the extreme, and there is no telling what this will ultimately cost even a year from now.
So basically we have lost the USA to the Leftist for good?
Congress critters are ignoring Article II, Section 1, so why would it be surprising if they also ignore Article I, Section 5?
“So basically we have lost the USA to the Leftist for good?”
No we haven’t. We need to continue the fight. We amy be winning.
We are watching a bloodless coup in process
Thanks for the encouragement, I really get depressed on occasion, with all of these Leftist and their dangerous antics.
No, I think this is a misguided tactic if the goal is to prevent the bill from passing the House.
Thanks, I am fearful for my country like never before.
God, we need a miracle!
You’re not allowed to say that.
Tried to catch the discussion in the background, but not sure Limbaugh’s caller, Nancy, who appeared to be well-credentialled, and Mark Levin were addressing the same point.
Art1, Sec 5 certainly does not empower either Chamber to disregard other provisions set out therein. I.e., the effort to have an unrecorded vote to protect Dems could be defeated.
Assuming the Sec 5 “any question” is synonymous with “any action” - including any “deeming” then a vote is required, or the 20% has been denied its constitutional right.
Was Nancy arguing no action – specifically, a deeming - could be taken by the House in the absence of a vote?
Not for good. Read your US history, particularly 1860-1864. There are options.
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