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Intrade Not Looking So Good at 81%
Intrade ^ | 3/19/2010

Posted on 03/19/2010 11:41:24 AM PDT by grayhog

Intrade has the bill passing at 81%, having spiked up over the past 2 days.

Watch the HMO stocks as well. If this passes, they should rally pretty hard, which is ironic because Obama uses them as his villain. UNH, WLP, AET are up about 2% in a down market, which also points to more likely than not this debacle passing. Healthcare stocks up (another $2.5 trillion to spend on healthcare!) and everything else down is a realistic result of this thing passing.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; healthcare; intrade; obamacare

1 posted on 03/19/2010 11:41:25 AM PDT by grayhog
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To: grayhog

The premise of the question is a fallacy. Any federal version of health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care. An unconstitutional act of Congress can never be law! The people are not bound to comply with an unconstitutional act of Congress!


2 posted on 03/19/2010 11:44:32 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: grayhog
I'm sure Intrade factors in the potential for Tar and feathering, right?

I like them to re-run those numbers this Saturday around say 1:00 to 2:00pm.

Bet they won't be at 81%!

3 posted on 03/19/2010 11:45:23 AM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: grayhog

I think InTrade is being manipulated by people who want to make it look like it will pass. Psy-ops.


4 posted on 03/19/2010 11:46:03 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (LOLcat sez: "ObamaCare: Do Not Want!")
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To: grayhog
The market plays are what they are....market plays...They sometime have no relationship to reality and that is definitely the case today and for the last three months.
5 posted on 03/19/2010 11:46:52 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: grayhog; All
It hasn't "passed" by the Supreme Court!!!
6 posted on 03/19/2010 11:50:03 AM PDT by no dems (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: grayhog

Evil Speculators!................


7 posted on 03/19/2010 11:51:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: grayhog

Everybody stay cool even if it passes Sunday.

The battle isn’t over by a long shot.


8 posted on 03/19/2010 11:53:45 AM PDT by x1stcav (Charter member of the Yukon Army..)
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To: grayhog
It really saddens me to say this, but intrade has historically been pretty good at predicting political outcomes.

I take a little solace in the fact that this particular contract is rather thinly traded, and therefore easy to manipulate. There were some wierd price patterns over the last few nights, which could be the result of manipulation, though they could have resulted from some combination of illiquidty and idiots trading.

So maybe, just maybe the high price might reflect some rich Dem manipulating the market to make passage of Obamacare seem "inevitable." Of course, I can't prove this, but it is a remote possibility.

Also, trading on intrade is technically illegal for US citizens, so maybe, just maybe (I hope), this means that the people with the best information (i.e. Congressional staffers) aren't participating. That would mean the price reflects the best guess about the odds of passage by ordinary, uninformed people, and that might not be accurate.

I pray one of the above alternative explanations for the high price is true.

9 posted on 03/19/2010 11:54:19 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: grayhog

Can you keep us updated on changes? Thanks! :)


10 posted on 03/19/2010 11:54:34 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: grayhog

Something like 222-203 maybe?


11 posted on 03/19/2010 11:54:50 AM PDT by GeronL (I said it yesterday and I'll say it today and everyday: Tomorrow I stop being so lazy!!)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
I think InTrade is being manipulated by people who want to make it look like it will pass. Psy-ops.

Could be. It's not the first time it's happened on intrade, and there were some very weird price/volume patters during the late night trading hours earlier this week. This isn't strong evidence of manipulation by an means, but it's something.

12 posted on 03/19/2010 11:56:27 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: BunnySlippers

You can get real time updates for yourself if you just go to intrade.com.


13 posted on 03/19/2010 11:57:07 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Thanks. I thought I would have to forage around on the site to find it ... but it’s on the frist page.

Thanks!


14 posted on 03/19/2010 12:16:48 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: curiosity

Intrade predicted 90% against George Bush getting a second term.

It has a lefty slant - free market or not, the prediction markets do have flaws on partisan issues.

Sports, not so much.


15 posted on 03/19/2010 12:20:52 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: sbMKE
Intrade predicted 90% against George Bush getting a second term.

Not as of the previous day's close. Markets were solidly pro-Bush at the time.

They turned against Bush during the day, when the faulty exit polls in the midwest came out favoring Kerry, big.

Exit polls are usually pretty accurate, so I don't think you can attribute the markets taking them seriously to some sort of lefty slant.

16 posted on 03/19/2010 1:06:34 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Day of election as the voting was going, it swung very sharply against Bush. I know because I was trading.


17 posted on 03/19/2010 5:29:34 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: grayhog

Trading is so thin on Intrade that it’s difficult if not impossible to determine accuracy.


18 posted on 03/19/2010 5:56:18 PM PDT by VA Voter
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