DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL: Hawaii considering law to ignore Obama 'birthers' (On Drudge now)

Drudge ^ | 3/17/2010 | rxsid

[rxsid]

On Drudge now, right side column...

"DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL: Hawaii considering law to ignore Obama 'birthers'... "

[thecodont]

See the signature...and you're not the only one, I've often wondered if she had twins...

Ha, ha, I've wondered about that too. That would be a great reason not to show the original birth certificate. It would be checkmarked for mulitple births. BTW, I notice this new story about Obama in Indonesia says he moved there when he was 7. The story keeps changing. I've heard several different accounts ranging from 2 years old up to 6, but this is a new one. What is it about the details that can't be consistent??

You mean, we could possibly be looking at something like the plot of the movie The Prestige?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0482571/

[Yaelle]

He was MUCH cuter as a little boy.

[Fred Nerks]

...What is it about the details that can't be consistent??

This article is a good example:

Obama's Mother Worked for USAID, World Bank, in Indonesia .LINK

Ann Sutoro (left) and her close friend Kay Ikranagara in 1975 at their children’s bilingual play group in Jakarta.

FROM THE ARTICLE:

Sutoro earned a Ph.D. in anthropology from the University of Hawaii in 1992 but lived mainly in Indonesia from 1967 to 1994. Obama spent about four years in Jakarta before moving back to live with his grandparents in Hawaii.

The woman shown with Kay Ikranagara is NOT Stanley Ann Dunham/Sutoro, their children could NOT have been together in the same playgroup in 1975...

[Fred Nerks]

Stanley Ann Dunham in Indonesia in the 70's.

[Chief Engineer]

You use the words “assuming Sr was his father”; according to the divorce papers there was a marriage automatically making Sr the legal father no matter who the actual sperm donor was, so the point is correct that his father was a British citizen!

[Chief Engineer]

The story keeps changing because when a story is based on lies the web Jr wove keeps getting bigger and harder to remember all those details and remembering all those details you eventually screw up and make a mistake with a date or an age or a name just some little slip up and someone or many someones will pick up on it and start asking questions. Well Freepers started asking questions way back and they have kept on asking questions since well before the election even when they were faced with derision and called names they stuck with their investigation. Daily something new is discovered which doesn’t match with the original and Freepers curse all the useless media that couldn’t be bothered to do anything but talk about their love affair and compare Jr with the Camelot era when Jr and his spouse could never be anything like the Kennedys. When it came to Sarah Palin it was a game to see how many reporters could fit into the small town where she lived and how many could dig through the trash and print anything and everything they could possibly think of about her whether or not it was even true while the idiot hope and change artist got a pass and naive people to believe him. Jr forgot one simple lesson: if you tell the truth you don’t have to keep remembering the details because they always remain the same, his story is falling apart because it is built on lies it is as simple as that.

[Dajjal]

obumpa

[Uncle Chip]

Very Interesting

[bgill]

Stanley Ann, has been placed in Seattle and attending class at the University of Washington shortly after Junior's alleged date of birth, in August of '61.

Actually, that might also be a lie. On her UW transcript, the fall and winter '61 semesters she took "extension or correspondence" classes. That doesn't place her anywhere. It is March '62 before we can place her in a UW classroom. The babysitter, Mary T. (?), said she babysat Hussein when he was 7 mos. old which fits with the March '62 date. Ann was NOT living in the house with Mary T. and she was NOT in a UW classroom after the supposed August 4th birth nor until March '62. WHERE WAS SHE AND THE BABY FOR SEVEN MONTHS?

[bgill]

the adults may NOT be Indonesians at all, therefor the lack of identification of the adults suggests the Menteng School story could be a fabrication?

It's another wrinkle.

[bgill]

not that I'm able to do what you suggest, but which heads do you mean?

I know, you and I don't have any fun programs. I was wondering if someone could take little Hussein's head off those two pictures and flip one so they are both facing the same direction. Are the two heads the same picture, just flipped?

[bgill]

4am is the time of the first muslim prayer...

4 AM - know wonder Al Q stays ticked off.

[little jeremiah]

Still in Kenya?

[bgill]

“According to the AP, “Obama’s feelings of not fitting in were heightened by his race. As one of the few black students at Punahou, he remembered in his memoir someone wanting to touch his hair and being asked whether his father ate people on his first day of school”

Boo freakin’ hoo. I’ve had blacks ask to touch my hair and didn’t think much about it but to laugh and let them. As for his father’s dining habits, if Hussein hadn’t gone around bragging about being the son of an African prince and writing “King Obama” in the sidewalk maybe the other kids wouldn’t have picked on him. This just further shows his mindset that we see today.

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/obamas-private-school-years/Content?oid=1113794

[bgill]

Still in Kenya?

Maybe, maybe not. Who knows. It could be anywhere, except anywhere near UW.

[rxsid]

"You use the words “assuming Sr was his father”; according to the divorce papers there was a marriage automatically making Sr the legal father no matter who the actual sperm donor was, so the point is correct that his father was a British citizen!"

That's right. Here it is:

Barry's Parents Divorce
The 1964 divorce record from the Circuit Court of the First Judicial Circuit State of Hawaii, states that Stanley Ann D. Obama and Barack H. Obama "were lawfully married in Wailuku, Maui, State of Hawaii, on February 2, 1961, by a person duly authorized to perform marriage cerimonies and ever since that date have been and are now husband and wife."
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18130289/Obama-1964-Divorce-Papers-13-Pages-Missing-Pg-11

However, if discovery was ever had in court, it would almost certainly be determined that his parents marriage was a polygamous or bigamous one as Sr. was previously married (and remained so at that time) to his first wife in Kenya. Therefore, his parents marriage could easily be found null and void. Barry would then, not have inherited British citizenship from Sr.

Of course, he would then have to confront the issue of the altered government document (the fake COLB) posted as truth, on his very own campaign web site. Lots of legal issues there, some of which I would presume are felonies.

[bgill]

“Obama claims his mother’s family were conservative Methodists or Baptists from Kansas. However his mother’s parents were members of a left-wing Unitarian church near Seattle. The church located in Bellevue, Washington was knick named “the little red church,” because of it’s communist leanings.”

“Before she died Ann Dunham wanted to adopt a mixed-race Korean baby fathered by a Black American stationed in South Korea.”

http://www.zimbio.com/Stanley+Ann+Dunham+Soetoro/articles/7/Ann+Dunham+mother+Barack+Obama+cultural+Marxist

[El Gato]

Actually, that might also be a lie. On her UW transcript, the fall and winter '61 semesters she took "extension or correspondence" classes. That doesn't place her anywhere.

According to the WND article, the University of Washington confirmed that the classes were night classed, not correspondence. You can tell that from the transcript, because the course numbers have an "X" prefix, not a "C". The course numbers are not shown on the computer printed transcript, but they are on the typewritten one linked above

Plus, there was a listing for her at the Seattle Residence in the '61-62 Polk directory. I tend to believe she was in Seattle in the fall of '61. The interview with Mary T. indicates that S. Ann moved in after she did, but doesn't say when that was. It just says she babysat BO Jr. starting in Feb or Mar of '62.

BTW, I was in error in saying SA did not return to U-HI until fall of '63, it was spring semester of '63, probably about 9 months earlier, indicating she really only missed two semesters, Spring '61 and Fall '62, plus taking a less than full load at WA, making the total equivalent missed more like 3 semesters, due to having BO.

[El Gato]

He was MUCH cuter as a little boy.

Most of us were Yaelle, most of us were.

[bgill]

The Scott/Barry 3rd grade picture has two different inks (blue and black) and the names are written in different handwriting. Begs the question - Why?

http://www.westernjournalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Barry-3rd-grade.jpg