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To: truthandlife
Can someone disagree with the substance of what Drier is saying?? The Dems have the votes to control the Rules committee, so basically....they make the rules. In that sense, there’s nothing that Drier or the Republicans can do to stop it, except try to sway public opinion against the Dems. They can try to force a vote to stop the process, but again, they don’t have the votes to win that either.
Can someone say Drier is wrong?
To: truthandlife
Dreier said there is nothing the majority party (Democrats) cannot do so long as the Rules Committee, where Democrats hold a 9-4 majority, authorizes it. This would include passing health reform without actually voting on it. We have to be able to do better than Dreier. Article 1, Section 5, is perfectly clear (section 7 is for overriding a veto and does not apply to the initial vote). In his position, I would not have accepted the job without knowing the Constitution (which most Freepers do know):
Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.
They are required to list the "yeas and nays" on any question if one fifth of the members present desire. All Dreier need do is have 1/5 of the total membership demand that they list the "yeas and nays" on Obamacare - the bill itself - and it cannot be "deemed to have passed" without a real vote that produces a list of "yeas and nays".
82 posted on
03/16/2010 12:12:08 PM PDT by
Pollster1
(Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
To: truthandlife
Let the Dims fall on their own sword.
90 posted on
03/16/2010 12:16:26 PM PDT by
Thunder90
(Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
To: truthandlife
Everything political can be understood by knowing the following:
Democrats = Evil Party.
Republicans = Stupid Party.
The Dems get elected when the Pubbies are too stupid, and the Pubbies get elected when the Dems are too evil. Right now, we have an excess of evil, so expect stupidity beginning next January.
92 posted on
03/16/2010 12:20:37 PM PDT by
Ancesthntr
(Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
To: truthandlife
How’s the price of ammo doing?
To: truthandlife
Dems are afraid to vote for it and Republicans are afraid to vote against it. Now that’s interesting. This way most of the blame can be put on one person, the President.
94 posted on
03/16/2010 12:22:49 PM PDT by
DungeonMaster
(A Christian Democrat is better than a heathen Republican)
To: truthandlife
Maybe we should all send our Democrap congress critters a link to: School House Rock. You would think that they would have at least seen it.
To: truthandlife
gutless puss...er i mean RINO...
99 posted on
03/16/2010 12:26:03 PM PDT by
Gilbo_3
(Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
To: All
Questions of Privilege: A Possible Countermove? ...That gets us back to the questions of privilege that are available to any House member who believes an action has maligned the dignity or integrity of the House, or the reputation of individual members. Because these motions are privileged, they preempt other House business and are brought up for debate and a vote immediately... http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MGE0MjJlOGE5MDNlNzk2ZDE4YjFjNDAxMTI4NDZiYjA=
101 posted on
03/16/2010 12:29:20 PM PDT by
PghBaldy
(Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
To: truthandlife
The GOP rules chief should RESIGN IMMEDIATLY.
102 posted on
03/16/2010 12:30:25 PM PDT by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: truthandlife
Dreier, who is the top House Republican responsible for making sure that Congress follows legitimate rules of procedure, told reporters yesterday that he is not a constitutional expert and that he had not spoken personally to any constitutional experts about the issue.Well he damn well BETTER talk to some of them! Otherwise HE should resign and let someone with some initiative and balls take over.
103 posted on
03/16/2010 12:30:46 PM PDT by
Right Wing Assault
(The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
To: truthandlife
Just when you think the GOP might be growing a pair, comes this:
Rep. David Dreier (R-Calif.), the ranking Republican on the House Rules Committee, indicated yesterday that he was resigned to letting congressional Democrats make the Senate health-care bill the law of the land
Right, Dave. Don't FIGHT, or anything.
107 posted on
03/16/2010 12:33:50 PM PDT by
ScottinVA
(Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
To: truthandlife
Dreier.. the top House Republican responsible for making sure that Congress follows legitimate rules of procedure, told reporters yesterday that he is not a constitutional expert and that he had not spoken personally to any constitutional experts about the issue.
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Bang-Up Job, Dreier.
119 posted on
03/16/2010 12:39:47 PM PDT by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
To: truthandlife
I wonder if someone is playing hardball with Dreier.
1. He was Arnold Schwarzenegger's California campaign co-chairman.
2. There are many rumors that he is secretly gay.
Is he afraid that his support of Schwarzenegger tags him as more liberal than conservative? Is he afraid that he might be "outed" if he opposes the Democrats?
-PJ
120 posted on
03/16/2010 12:40:39 PM PDT by
Political Junkie Too
("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
To: truthandlife
TRANSLATION: Drier is too busy hiding under his desk to work his rear end off figuring out a way to STOP this thuggery. Drier is a pi$$-ant, spineless, limp-wristed McCain look alike. Yet another house RINO has been exposed.
To: truthandlife
Just a question. What power does he have to stop them?
Just asking. I thought the GOP could not stop them.
130 posted on
03/16/2010 12:53:09 PM PDT by
dforest
To: truthandlife
135 posted on
03/16/2010 12:59:37 PM PDT by
cake_crumb
(RR on ObieCare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs&feature=player_embedded#)
To: truthandlife
He can warn the Democrats that they won't always be in power and that what can be 'deemed' can also be 'undeemed' as well.
The GOP needs to let the Democrats know in both chambers that they will face the same tactics if they use them on this Bill.
136 posted on
03/16/2010 1:00:27 PM PDT by
fortheDeclaration
("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
To: truthandlife
Dems are shredding the Constitution.
How long do they think American patriots are going to put up with this?
Look at all those Tea Party folks in DC today.
Dreier is just another RINO—not willing to fight for the cause.
143 posted on
03/16/2010 1:03:55 PM PDT by
Palladin
(The Obama administration is a criminal enterprise.)
To: truthandlife
" Im not in a position to raise the (constitutionality) question right now. -Ranking Member of the House Rules CommitteeWell, then, Representative Dreier, just what are you doing there?
My advice is for you to resign immediately and leave town.
You are NOT going to be happy in the near future. Get while the getting's good.
149 posted on
03/16/2010 1:07:10 PM PDT by
Jim Noble
(Let tyrants shake their iron rod, and slavery clank her galling chains)
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