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Economists agree: Tax cuts don't create revenue
Pioneer Press ^ | 3-14-10 | Ed Lotterman

Posted on 03/14/2010 9:06:14 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB

Self-paying tax cuts are a popular delusion, except among economists.

University of Michigan economist Joel Slemrod is adamant on one of the key economic issues of our day: 'Tax cuts don't pay for themselves! Period!'

Hardly any economist would disagree. This is true for Republicans as well as Democrats. It is also true regardless of whether they describe themselves as NeoClassical, New Classical, Rational Expectations, Monetarist, Keynesian, Austrian or New Institutional economists.

Yet, for a substantial portion of the general public, the idea that cutting tax rates will increase tax revenues has become an article of faith. The following anonymous comment to an online Associated Press story is typical: "The only way our government can create jobs is to cut taxes. It's been proven over and over again. Cutting taxes also increases government revenue."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: cuts; economists; revenue; tax
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To: WOBBLY BOB
A liberal economist is like a push poll, you get whatever result you want in how you frame the questions.
21 posted on 03/14/2010 9:41:29 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Many in the general public and many Republican elected officials believe lowering tax rates would help reduce the deficit. Virtually all economists disagree,

Maybe the government should cut taxes and CUT SPENDING TOO, to balance the budget. sheesh

22 posted on 03/14/2010 9:41:50 AM PDT by mjp (pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, independence, limited government, capitalism})
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Oh yes, raising taxes and “spreading the wealth” are proven remedies for economic growth. That’s why we have 10% unemployment and rising.


23 posted on 03/14/2010 9:42:56 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Natural Law; WOBBLY BOB; little jeremiah
The fact that tax cuts have worked in the past to stimulate the economy, and thereby increased overall government revenues, means nothing. Statisical blips on a confusing radar screen of the economy, which we, not being economists paid by state-supported instutions, are simply not equipped to interpret.

In similar fashion, a few decades of colder temperatures, increasing ice packs in the Arctic and Antarctic Regions are scientific anomalies; optical illusions, that mislead many members of the public to doubt the words of publicly supported experts, who are feverishly trying to save us from AGW, despite ourselves.

If the learned were to take advice from the ordinary, it could lead to chaos. E.G., Doctors might start using willow bark, and foxglove, among other superstitious remedies for fevers and heart problems. Just imagine that!

What next? Ordinary citizens reading the Constitution? Folly! .

24 posted on 03/14/2010 9:43:16 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama? Definitely eligible to be Prime Minister of the UK.)
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To: martin_fierro

Laffer curve tells it all. Revenue will increase when tax rate decrease.


25 posted on 03/14/2010 9:45:00 AM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Economists agree: Tax cuts don't create revenue

And in other news, using sales commissions to reward salesmen does not increase sales.

/s

26 posted on 03/14/2010 9:52:04 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: mjp
You don't even have to cut spending, just freeze spending.

And I mean freeze it to a dollar amount. If you are spending one billion on welfare, next year it will be exactly one billion again. After a few years they will have to cut out the waste and fraud.

27 posted on 03/14/2010 9:52:15 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: little jeremiah

Add to your list: Cut all government pay by 10% for every three months that the Federal budget is not balanced. Cut federal pay to match the average of the American people. Get rid of all pork and earmarks. Cut the number of federal and state employees by 30%.


28 posted on 03/14/2010 9:52:18 AM PDT by RC2
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To: WOBBLY BOB

29 posted on 03/14/2010 9:53:13 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: Natural Law

Yep, I guess those record tax proceeds thaat eminated from the tax cuts never happened either. Life is so easy when morality, reality, truth and facts are trumped by ideology.


30 posted on 03/14/2010 9:54:18 AM PDT by dools007
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To: WOBBLY BOB
NeoClassical, New Classical, Rational Expectations, Monetarist, Keynesian, Austrian or New Institutional economists.

So no Supply side economist or Friedman or any non-Marxist. When only poll Keynesian flavored economist you get poop flavored outcome.

31 posted on 03/14/2010 9:58:28 AM PDT by techcor (I hope Obama succeeds... in becoming a one term president.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Well it’s good that we’re following this guy’s advice right now then. :)


32 posted on 03/14/2010 9:59:49 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: FrankR
While these "economists" may be whizzes at working a spreadsheet, few have ever really run a business, and like most college geeks, rely solely on theory taught to them by hard left professors who hate capitalism.

"...few have ever really run a business,..." Oh brother, you can say that again. Go to youtube and look up the clip from Back To School with Rodney Dangerfield, the one in economics class. It is a classic.

33 posted on 03/14/2010 10:02:08 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: WOBBLY BOB
So-called economists who say things like tax cuts/tax rates do not generate revenue are making the back case for raising same. The are then followed by some politician who duly raises those rates, and the public nods....

When lower taxes bring in more revenue, these economists point out that there isn't enough money to supply some essential service... that the politicians have spent it all on their projects doesn't count, and the cycle repeats while the public nods (off)...

34 posted on 03/14/2010 10:03:08 AM PDT by PIF
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To: Blue Devil Reaganite

I had an excellent econ prof. Sadly, just had the one course with him. He was an austrian so we got along!


35 posted on 03/14/2010 10:10:18 AM PDT by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: Nateman

The particularly wonderful thing abou the Laffer Curve is how many regular Joe 6-Packs “get it”.


36 posted on 03/14/2010 10:10:54 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (\)
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To: AmishDude
"...his lowest oriface

At first, I thought that Amish Dude needed SpellCheck. But then I said to the dog, "Clever!" (Came to scoff, stayed to praise).

37 posted on 03/14/2010 10:12:23 AM PDT by Mr Ducklips
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To: Ol' Sparky
Tax cuts result in economic growth. Citizens make more money and, even though they are paying at a lower rate, pay more total dollars to the government.

EXACTLY. It's one of the fundamental things I have to drum into some clients new to my industry. Ignore the profit margin, ignore the number of units sold. The ONLY thing that matters is the number of dollars in your pocket at the end of the day.

Tax rates should be considered fluid and variable, and if cutting the tax rate (margin) by a factor of 3 results in a net increase in dollars at the end of the day then it was the right move to make.

38 posted on 03/14/2010 10:19:43 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The data is there. Even Laffer stated that a flat tax of 12.5% will result in an increase in tax revenue. The problem the left has with this is that they can’t use it as a political issue for class warfare.

The left does not understand free markets, and sensible low tax rates. Everything is driven by short-term political gain.


39 posted on 03/14/2010 10:20:35 AM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: BenKenobi

Lucky. Most of my Econ professors were ex-hippies or ex-full time students with no practical economic experience.


40 posted on 03/14/2010 10:22:32 AM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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