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US Servicemen To Take Part in Russia's Largest Victory Parade Ever
English.Pravda.ru ^ | March 3, 2010

Posted on 03/12/2010 12:26:09 PM PST by ETL

US servicemen will participate in the Victory Day Parade on Red Square in Moscow on May 9, Alexander Vershbow, assistant defense secretary for international security affairs said. The Americans will celebrate the 65th anniversary of Victory in WWII, the official said.

Vladimir Kozhin, an official spokesman for the administration of the Russian president, confirmed that Moscow had invited France, Britain and the United States for the parade. The French were the first to agree. They now decide soldiers of which troops will march in the heart of Moscow on May 9.

If all is arranged as planned, it will be the first time when foreign military men will step on Red Square pavestones as participants of the parade. Russia invited only military attaches of foreign embassies for victory parades before.

“The parade in 2010 is a special one. It will be the largest parade that has ever been held in Moscow during the post-Soviet years. We plan to use 130 planes and helicopters, as well as military hardware from private collections in the parade,” a spokesman for Russia’s Defense Ministry said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: belarus; cccp; coldwar2; communism; demicrazies; fsb; kgb; kgbputin; putin; redarmy; russia; sovietunion; ukraine; usefulidiots; ussr; victoryday2010
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To: flash2368
Putin may long for the good ‘ol days of the Soviet Union, but there are more than a few idiots here in America that long for the good ‘ol days of the cold war.

Is Russia not preparing to make major moves on the world stage? Are they not building up every one of our enemies, including Chavez, the Castro bros, other Marxist dictatorships in Latin America, also Iran and Syria? Have they not pledged with the ChiComs to create a "new international order"? Are they not threatening their former satellites, i.e. Georgia?

41 posted on 03/12/2010 2:09:02 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

You are correct. However my point is that it could have been different.

The same people at foggy bottom and the Pentagon and wherever else policy is made are obviously still in charge.

As an aside, in the early ‘90s I had a long discussion with a retired high level U.S. State Department guy. He told me about a lot of things that we did during cold war days that I had never heard about and certainly never made the news. In a nutshell he said that we were constantly provoking the Russians and had them scared to death we were going to attack at any minute. Some of the missions he told me about were absolutely shocking and the U-2 flyovers were paled by comparison. He said he was surprised we avoided all out nuclear war.

The Russians were paranoid anyway, and we fed the paranoia by the boatload. I am no fan of the people who have risen to power in Russia, and they present a clear threat, but in many respects we are our own worst enemy when it comes to dealing with them.

It is such a shame that we ended up like this with them after the struggle that cost so much and ultimately brought the Soviet Union down. Kind of like holding a winning lotto ticket and then just tearing it up.


42 posted on 03/12/2010 2:34:31 PM PST by flash2368
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To: ETL
Will there be Georgian troops? How about Finns?

The Soviets were our "allies" (Co-belligerents would be a better word) in WWII because Hitler attacked the Soviet Union before Stalin was ready to return the favor. Admittedly a lot of Russians died for their country in "The Great Patriotic War", but, per Patton, that's not how wars are won. Much of those losses can be attributed to Stalin's purges of his officer corps. The loss of those officers' leadership skills undoubtedly led to much higher casualty rates than there should have been.

Thanks for the invite, but no thanks.

43 posted on 03/12/2010 2:35:05 PM PST by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: flash2368
we had a point in time when there would have been the possibility to have Russia as an ally

What point in time was that?

44 posted on 03/12/2010 2:35:07 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

At the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union. Lots been written about it and the blunders we made that either directly or indirectly influenced what happened and who came to power.


45 posted on 03/12/2010 2:43:08 PM PST by flash2368
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To: ETL
Our men would get more respect from the degenerate former Soviets than from their own Kenyan-in-Chief.

Sad but true.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

46 posted on 03/12/2010 2:44:45 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: ETL
Were'sThe$

I am going......................................
47 posted on 03/12/2010 2:45:11 PM PST by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Veteran)
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To: GitmoSailor
One medal for each day he woke up and donned the uniform?

*sheesh!*

48 posted on 03/12/2010 2:46:11 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: GitmoSailor
So are we!

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49 posted on 03/12/2010 3:02:09 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: GitmoSailor
Us too!

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50 posted on 03/12/2010 3:07:33 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: magslinger

I don’t know much about the history of WWII, but someone just told me that the officer purges came AFTER the war not during it??


51 posted on 03/12/2010 4:37:56 PM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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To: ETL

Venezuela, Nicaragua, and Cuba may also partake in this....


52 posted on 03/12/2010 8:23:49 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Well, Cid, they were actually co-belligerents, not technically allies. Although they certainly pushed hard in that direction, and they should be rewarded for changing sides three years before the Italians thought of it!

Try and remember, they began the war as allies of the Germans. As a result, they still haven't given back that part of Poland they stole while working WITH the krauts.

Not that I am selling the Commie sonsabitches short. They fought over 550 German divisions, while we, the Brits, et al, "only faced about 240!" Of course, in addition to the Germans, we and the Brits also had the Japs and some Italians to worry about.

Of course, Patton was correct about the Commies, but as we now know, Truman was surrounded by real live Soviet Agents, who sold his naïve ass (and ours) down the river.

However, curmudgeon that I am, I shall never forgive that dumb little haberdasher for sacking MacArthur, who was also dead right about the Commies. One small nuke in China, and this would have been a different ... and better .... world from 1951 forward. That silly little bastard who was too stupid to realize that he was surrounded by genuine Soviet Agents, set the stage for our debacle in VietnNam.

53 posted on 03/12/2010 9:47:11 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Obama? Definitely eligible to be Prime Minister of the UK.)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett
.....but someone just told me that the officer purges came AFTER the war not during it??

Yo, meathead, time to change friends.

I don’t know much about the history of WWII,

No library in your town? No Google on your computer? Get with the program, mon agent provocateur.

54 posted on 03/12/2010 9:54:16 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Obama? Definitely eligible to be Prime Minister of the UK.)
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To: Thunder90
Venezuela, Nicaragua, and Cuba may also partake in this...

The Technical name for this is:

OBAMAFEST!

55 posted on 03/12/2010 10:10:00 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Obama? Definitely eligible to be Prime Minister of the UK.)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

FYI: Purges of the Soviet Army officer corps began well BEFORE the war, but continued through it.


56 posted on 03/12/2010 10:11:55 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Obama? Definitely eligible to be Prime Minister of the UK.)
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To: Thunder90; dfwgator; lizol

Thank the general and tell him I have no desire to drink with him or any other Russian son of a bitch.


If Patton lived today, he would surely puke seeing U.S. troops marching on Red Square to honor Stalin and his Kremlin henchmen.

The map of GULag shows the real achievement of the Soviet Union war effort, "something to commemorate" for US delegation and troops on May 9,2010.

America was always the only hope of the world that Soviet Union with its communist remnants will once vanish from the face of the planet, once and for all. This will be the biggest possible gift for those millions of NKVD victims, shipped and tormented to death in white snow of Siberia.

57 posted on 03/13/2010 12:47:32 AM PST by Matt_Rel
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To: Kenny Bunk

Thanks, so much for your “enlightening” replies. I’m sure you’re a delight to the less informed of your acquaintance. I obviously learned a lot more from reading other FReepers’ posts on this thread willing to share their knowledge of the era than from your sarcastic, whiny reply.


58 posted on 03/13/2010 5:11:30 AM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett
Wiki says otherwise. Wiki is, of course, not a definitive source, but they do know Commies.

There were later purges. Stalin was always up for a good purge.

59 posted on 03/13/2010 5:30:59 AM PST by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: magslinger

Thank you for your source, magslinger. I also found that one, among others. I find it more interesting to read what real people know first, then research if what they say doesn’t make sense or answer my questions about the subject.


60 posted on 03/13/2010 5:46:55 AM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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