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Ship neighbors’ plea falls on deaf ears (Old Ironsides vs. Whiners)
The Boston Herald ^ | 3/11/10 | Hillary Chabot

Posted on 03/11/2010 3:49:56 PM PST by Reaganesque

Adding a new chapter to its storied history of vanquished British seamen and Barbary pirates, Old Ironsides has emerged victorious once again - this time vs. snooty neighbors seeking to silence the frigate’s cannons.

The 204-foot USS Constitution will continue its twice-daily blasts along with playing the national anthem - although officials turned the ship around in Boston Harbor on Feb. 18 so the echoing booms are directed away from Charlestown residences.

“We sent (the neighbors) a letter saying that after reviewing their request, we decided we’re not going to make any changes to the tradition,” said Timothy Cooper, the ship’s commanding officer.

The Herald reported in November that unidentified neighbors had asked Cooper to reduce the size of the gunpowder charge, turn down the national anthem and eliminate weekend ceremonies altogether.

The neighbors invited Cooper over for a glass of wine to hear the noise himself, saying the cannon blasts - a tradition dating to 1798 - were “much more disruptive to the neighborhood than (he) might have imagined.”

Cooper didn’t take them up on their invite. “I appreciate the spirit in which it was offered, but I think it was best to communicate through official correspondence rather than a sit down,” Cooper told the Herald yesterday.

But he tried using a smaller amount of gunpowder to lessen the cannon noise, only to conclude the ceremony just wasn’t the same.

In the wake of the kerfuffle, local residents and politicians as well as out-of-towners have rallied round the nation’s oldest commissioned naval vessel with calls, letters and e-mails of support.

Said Cooper: “It sparked a lot of goodwill for the ship and our traditions.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: constitution; ironsides; neighbors; noise
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Just what kind of an idiot do you have to be to move in next to a national icon that has a 202 year old tradition of firing its canon and then have the audacity to complain about it? Its like moving in next to the Vatican and complaining about the bells. You don't like loud bells or canon? DON'T MOVE IN NEXT TO THEM!!!
1 posted on 03/11/2010 3:49:57 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque

Don’t confuse liberals with common sense.


2 posted on 03/11/2010 3:53:01 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Reaganesque

That’s Boston for you.


3 posted on 03/11/2010 3:55:53 PM PST by DHSMostWanted (ByeBye Benedict Nelson in 2012.)
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To: Reaganesque

They’re the same kind of people that move next to an airport or a dog kennel. Then complain endlessly.


4 posted on 03/11/2010 3:56:11 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Reaganesque

Similar thing happened in San Diego County when they built houses near Miramar Naval Air Station. People moved in, then complained about the jet noise. Navy spent millions building “hush houses” for engine run-ups, etc. Ridiculous. I used to tell people the dound of those F-14s screaming by was the sound of freedom, so STHU.


5 posted on 03/11/2010 3:56:21 PM PST by cld51860
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...unidentified neighbors...

I'd like to see them identified. Seems that the Boston Herald hasn't been doing it's job.

6 posted on 03/11/2010 3:56:38 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: DHSMostWanted

Old Ironsides is very important to most Bostonians. These are just a handfull of whiners. The whiners didn’t get their way when the rest of the community told them to stick it.


7 posted on 03/11/2010 3:58:22 PM PST by Reaganesque ("And thou shalt do it with all humility, trusting in me, reviling not against revilers.")
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But he tried using a smaller amount of gunpowder to lessen the cannon noise, only to conclude the ceremony just wasn’t the same.

Lol. Love it! A TRUE patriot!

8 posted on 03/11/2010 4:01:52 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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Just send them a polite letter telling them to STFU or we’ll turn the cannons back around and start using cannon balls again.


9 posted on 03/11/2010 4:02:37 PM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 393)
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that unidentified neighbors had asked Cooper to reduce the size of the gunpowder charge,

Next time, put a cannonball in the with gunpowder, and see how they like it then!

lol.

10 posted on 03/11/2010 4:03:24 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Reaganesque

I visited the USS Constitution about 1992. It was a humbling experience to ponder the history and brave men who trod the same decks.


11 posted on 03/11/2010 4:04:30 PM PST by Jacquerie (It is only in the context of Natural Law that our Declaration & Constitution form a coherent whole)
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The same kind of idiot that moves in next to an Air Force base and complains about the noise of jet engines would be my guess.


12 posted on 03/11/2010 4:08:26 PM PST by AF_Blue ("Are you guys ready? Let's roll!" - Todd Beamer)
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To: DHSMostWanted

That’s Massholes for you.


13 posted on 03/11/2010 4:14:08 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (You don't have to be ignorant to be a Democrat...but if you are...so what?)
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I think the guide that was there when I was said it best,” The U.S.S. Constitution is Boston's only undefeated team.” Add one more victory, now 13-0.
14 posted on 03/11/2010 4:14:23 PM PST by DHSMostWanted (ByeBye Benedict Nelson in 2012.)
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Charlestown was,until recently,very “blue collar”.But trust funded,guilt ridden “progressives” have moved in.Kinda like a fungus,I'd say.
15 posted on 03/11/2010 4:17:27 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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The 204-foot USS Constitution will continue its twice-daily blasts along with playing the national anthem - although officials turned the ship around in Boston Harbor on Feb. 18 so the echoing booms are directed away from Charlestown residences.

Seems to me the solution is to turn the ship back around and load with canister. And REALLY give them something to complain about.

16 posted on 03/11/2010 4:18:16 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Reaganesque

If the whiners are able to present someone who was there before the tradition started they should be rewarded with the silence they demand.

Anyone? Hello?!?

I guess they were rendered deaf from all the cannonfire. :)


17 posted on 03/11/2010 4:21:15 PM PST by Diver Dave
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To: cld51860
Similar thing happened in San Diego County when they built houses near Miramar Naval Air Station. People moved in, then complained about the jet noise. Navy spent millions building “hush houses” for engine run-ups, etc...

My sister lives within about 1/2 mile of one of the runaways of an Air Force base...a base where lots of maintenance/repairs on C-5A's are done.Because I visit her often I can assure you that those things are *loud*...as are the fighters that sometimes can be seen (and heard) overhead.

18 posted on 03/11/2010 4:22:42 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Reaganesque

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiRbJRNKyv8&feature=related

HMS Victory fires rolling broadside

I would love to see/hear this


19 posted on 03/11/2010 4:24:22 PM PST by seton89 (Use Amendment X as your email signature)
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To: Reaganesque

USS Constitution Cannon Firing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwxIb3ppLbg


20 posted on 03/11/2010 4:25:38 PM PST by deks (So will Obama sign a bill that requires native Hawaiians to show a birth certificate?)
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