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House Democrats’ ‘NO’ Votes Are Piling Up on Healthcare Reform
The Hill (via Congressman Garrett on Face Book) ^ | 03/11/2010 | Bob Cusack

Posted on 03/11/2010 1:11:11 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick

More than two dozen Democrats are expected to vote against the healthcare reform bill that will hit the House floor in the coming weeks.

At least 25 House Democrats will reject the healthcare reform legislation, according to a survey by The Hill, a review of other media reports and interviews with lawmakers, aides and lobbyists. Dozens of House Democrats are undecided or won't comment on their position on the measure.

The 25 opposed include firm "no" votes and members who are likely "no" votes. Most Democrats on The Hill's whip list are definitely going to vote no, but others, such as Reps. Lincoln Davis (Tenn.) and Harry Teague (N.M.), could vote yes.

However, The Hill has not yet put Democrats who are insisting on Rep. Bart Stupak's (D-Mich.) language on abortion in the "no" category. Stupak has said there are 12 Democrats who supported the House bill in November who will vote no unless his measure blocking federal funding of abortions is melded into the final bill.

If leadership doesn't make changes to the abortion language and Stupak does indeed have 12 votes in his pocket, it will be very difficult to pass a bill. Yet if they do change the provisions, supporters of abortion rights in the House will threaten to vote no.

The Hill's list does not include members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, who are threatening to vote no unless changes are made to the bill's immigration-related provisions. Most on Capitol Hill believe that language will not be changed and that most members of the CHC will still back the final measure.

With all Republicans expected to reject the bill, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) needs to minimize defections. Thirty-nine Democrats voted against the House healthcare bill that passed 220-215 last November.

But the landscape has shifted a bit since last year with Rep. Parker Griffith's (R-Ala.) decision to leave the Democratic Party and four House vacancies. Rep. Joseph Cao (R-La.), who backed the bill last time, will vote no unless the final bill contains changes on abortion-related provisions.

Assuming every member votes, Democratic leaders could not afford more than 37 defectors, which would lead to a 216-215 tally.

In an interview this week with Bloomberg and PBS host Charlie Rose, Pelosi indicated she has the votes to pass a bill. However, Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said on MSNBC Tuesday that he hasn't started to whip the vote yet.

The White House wants the House to vote by next week, but Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Tuesday that meeting the White House deadline is highly unlikely. House leaders, including Hoyer, have publicly expressed their displeasure with the Obama administration for setting the March 18 deadline.

The House is expected to adjourn for two weeks on March 26. Hoyer indicated passing a bill by then would be difficult.

Pelosi's push for votes appears to have started. The Speaker was seen in a long conversation with Rep. Tom Perriello (D-Va.) on the House floor Wednesday night. Perriello, who voted for the House healthcare bill last fall, is considered one of the most vulnerable Democrats in the midterm elections.

Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee Chairman Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) is more bullish, predicting that a final bill will be on President Barack Obama's desk by the end of the month.

Height Analytics, an investment research firm, recently indicated that House Democrats are nine votes short on healthcare reform. In a report to investors last week, the firm stated, "Our analysis and current House whip count indicate that House leadership is nine votes [shy] of the 216 needed ..."

The Height Analytics report anticipates that Reps. Jason Altmire (D-Pa.) and Brian Baird (D-Wash.), who both voted no last fall, will support the legislation this year. During an appearance on "Fox News Sunday" last weekend, Altmire said he has an "open mind" on the bill.


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KEYWORDS: hcr; internaltension; obamacare
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Hoping this is true.
1 posted on 03/11/2010 1:11:11 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick
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To: Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army; Darksheare; pissant; najida; r-q-tek86; blackie; Rightly Biased; ...

PING!!!!


2 posted on 03/11/2010 1:15:55 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Pereillo is the walking dead here in VA.


3 posted on 03/11/2010 1:16:56 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I think they are beginning to realize that if they pass this monstrosity, they will be out of power for the foreseeable future. That’s all the Repub’s will have to say is “remember the Health Care debacle” and it will last.

If they were smart, they lick their wounds now, take the defeat in November and start working their way back. The R’s will again do stupid things that will make people try the Dems again. If they force this thing through, they will be out of power for a long, long time.


4 posted on 03/11/2010 1:18:12 PM PST by woweeitsme
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
There are 4 vacant House seats that won't be filled for weeks.

No wonder the 'Rats are in a hurry, eh?

5 posted on 03/11/2010 1:18:16 PM PST by mewzilla (No taxation without representation!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
Thank God.

I was worried Pelosi had a few votes in her hip pocket beyond those who voted for it last time. Guess I gave her too much credit for being an effective leader.

6 posted on 03/11/2010 1:23:27 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Maybe the Rats are just fixing the statistics.

They know how many votes they need, how many and which seats will be up for election, and who is most vulnerable.

Maybe they are just trying to figure out how small they can make their kamikaze squad and still get the bill passed while impacting their hold on Congress the least.


7 posted on 03/11/2010 1:26:12 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

You guys quit countin’ your chicks so quickly. We’ve seen it before, this is the age of corruption, lies, deceit and dictatorship building.


8 posted on 03/11/2010 1:27:16 PM PST by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: ZULU

I think that is why Lincoln Davis of South Tennessee was allowed to vote “no” on the first Health Care vote — now they need his vote, and they are calling in his marker.


9 posted on 03/11/2010 1:30:36 PM PST by Mack the knife
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To: ZULU
Maybe they are just trying to figure out how small they can make their kamikaze squad and still get the bill passed while impacting their hold on Congress the least.

I submit that there's no "maybe" about it. This is exactly what they are doing.

10 posted on 03/11/2010 1:34:28 PM PST by Hazwaste (Some people are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: All

According to my Congressman: Health Care Reconciliation will be in the Budget Committee on MONDAY! I am on the Budget Committee. I’ll be fighting it every step of the way!


11 posted on 03/11/2010 1:37:28 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
Notice Brian Baird is now unable to overcome his usual Marxist tendencies. He got plenty of push back in the town meetings last year, but now that he’s bailing, he has no problem pushing us down the road to socialism. Hope he enjoyed his last junket, oink.
12 posted on 03/11/2010 1:41:34 PM PST by throwback (o)
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To: woweeitsme

I just heard they will push cap n tax next, followed by immigration reform. I guess their plan is to scream “Republican Obstruction” this November, that’s not going to work well.


13 posted on 03/11/2010 1:42:37 PM PST by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new environmentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

in a very bizarre kind of way, maybe Eric Massa has rallied a number of Dems against this administration and their bullying tactics


14 posted on 03/11/2010 1:43:25 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Hazwaste

I agree too. They’re passing out the dresses so the “ladies” can get into the life boats before the water comes over the sides.


15 posted on 03/11/2010 1:46:32 PM PST by throwback (o)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Maybe America still has a chance.


16 posted on 03/11/2010 1:54:54 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: DarthVader

Really? I hope so. Can’t believe he won that seat, and he’s voted pretty much with Pelosi down the line. How on earth did he get elected? Everyone’s been saying Virginia is rapidly turning blue, but sheesh.


17 posted on 03/11/2010 2:14:33 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: DarthVader
"Pereillo is the walking dead here in VA."

I hate it that I don't live in his district, just so I could vote against that punk.

18 posted on 03/11/2010 2:17:34 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

If Nancy had the votes they would have voted. The more that the dems see that it is not going to pass, it will allow those dems up for re-election in Nov. to also vote no. It is going to begin to burst at the seams. They probably will not let it come to a vote to protect the presidents reputation.


19 posted on 03/11/2010 2:18:12 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Have you paid attention to what just happened in VA’s recent elections? The GOP won all three statewide offices by an average of 19% of the vote. Also 9 House rat incumbents were sent packing. This was a pure anti-Obama/anti-Democrat vote. The temper tantrum of 2008 is over and common sense is prevailing in VA which is red again. Look for 4 Democrat House seats to go GOP in November.


20 posted on 03/11/2010 2:21:14 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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