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Senate Plan Calls for National ID Card to Curb Illegal Immigration
Newsmax ^ | March 11, 2010 | Dave Eberhart

Posted on 03/11/2010 6:13:06 AM PST by Irisshlass

A national ID card using biometric data such as fingerprints is at the center of an immigration reform bill being hammered out in the U.S. Senate – a measure that once again probably will pit advocates of homeland security and tough immigration enforcement against civil libertarians, employers and immigrant rights groups.

The new effort by Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Lindsey Graham, R- S.C., will revive the “Real ID” debate that has festered for years with little effect on illegal immigration. Under their plan, a universally required card would be encoded with all sorts of information regarding the holder, as well as contain a unique biometric signature created from either fingerprints or the vein patterns on the tops of the hands.

Bottom line: Employers will not be able to hire applicants who do not present a valid ID.

Schumer and Graham are slated to meet soon with President Barack Obama to brief him on their work. An administration official said the White House has no position on the biometric card, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalaliens; nationalid
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To: Liz

Liar liar is right. Every day, on every subject.


61 posted on 03/11/2010 8:00:24 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: verity
I never have had to use my card.

I guess you've never bought a car, a house, applied for a job, opened a bank account etc...the list is long.

62 posted on 03/11/2010 8:06:03 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Irisshlass

I think the health care reform bill is one of the two most destructive pieces of legislation that could be imposed on our country, the other being Schumer’s yet-to-be-introduced amnesty legislation, which he is struggling to find co-sponsors for and which very likely WILL include a national ID of some sort. It is highly ironic that the inclusion of such a provision will be his bill’s poison pill and kiss of death. And it goes to show how little he understands about his own country. I also think the best way to fight the passage of these bill is with facts, not suppositions.


63 posted on 03/11/2010 8:06:28 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: KarlInOhio

You’re right. Just looked at my son’s card. Wonder when that changed.


64 posted on 03/11/2010 8:10:32 AM PST by DManA
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To: Las Vegas Ron

No one uses the “card” as a means of identification.


65 posted on 03/11/2010 8:10:49 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: andy58-in-nh; All
Ordering a pizza in the future:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNJl9EEcsoE

66 posted on 03/11/2010 8:11:07 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Irisshlass

after we kill Obamacare, running Lindsay Grahmnesty out of the GOP has to become a top priority


67 posted on 03/11/2010 8:16:30 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: KarlInOhio
I don't think the "Not for identification" is on the card anymore.

I received my SS card in 1974, it's not on mine either,

68 posted on 03/11/2010 8:17:42 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Irisshlass

B.S. This card is for control and they hope to sell it to us by attaching it to the illegal immigration issue.


69 posted on 03/11/2010 8:17:45 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: verity
Just the number, same thing.

You can't get a job without showing it, I just opened a new bank account and had to show it.

70 posted on 03/11/2010 8:20:22 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Irisshlass

Build and man the g*ddam wall, punish the employers of illegals and take away the bennies illegals are getting! (Build the wall at the easiest and most used crossing places for a start. Let the desert drastically discourage crossing elsewhere.)

But no - as usual - never let a crisis go to waste when you can use national ID cards to control productive, non law breaking citizens instead of those breaking the law.


71 posted on 03/11/2010 8:20:51 AM PST by Let's Roll (Stop paying Planned Parenthood to murder babies! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: Puppage

Yeah but that SS card really is a lousy form of ID. It tells the viewer the one thing you don’t want to give out
and does nothing to physically identify you.


72 posted on 03/11/2010 8:23:39 AM PST by Dead Eye Lane
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I was differentiating between the card and the number.
73 posted on 03/11/2010 8:24:03 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Irisshlass

how about that id card passport? it is plastic like a DL and consititutes proof of citizenship.


74 posted on 03/11/2010 8:25:11 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Irisshlass

I might be for this if EVERYONE has to show incontrovertible evidence for citizenship. That would include birth certificate or citizenship status.
OK zero!


75 posted on 03/11/2010 8:25:36 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: verity

I was just making the point that you can’t do anything without it these days, it is a form of I.D., though not in the sense of a driver license.


76 posted on 03/11/2010 8:30:04 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Rapscallion
Does the word idiot mean anything to you? It should since you are obviously one of the biggest idiots in existence. A national ID will kill our freedom quicker than anything. As one commenter has already noted, we have a national ID card now, it is our SS card, and it was never intended to be used that way.

We are headed down the path to total slavery and you think it is a good idea.

77 posted on 03/11/2010 8:30:45 AM PST by calex59
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To: All

how about just IMPROVING THE SS CARD?


78 posted on 03/11/2010 8:32:22 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: CodeToad

I agree. We just spread myths you know, we are fear mongers.


79 posted on 03/11/2010 8:46:48 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Kimberly GG
"Are you aware that some of the biggest Tea Party proponents, i.e, Dick Armey and FreedomWorks, as well as favored front runners, i.e., Palin, are FOR the same “path to citizenship” amnesty as McCain and Bush?"

I am well aware of Armey and a few others who have claimed for themselves leadership positions in the Tea Party movement. They are not. They are just trying to exploit the movement for their own gain. Nobody but the MSM is looking to them for guidance and leadership.

True Tea Party members do not recognize any "leaders".You may need an occasional volunteer to do things like arrange the meeting or the bus charter, but the wisdom of the Tea Party movement is that it is a consensus of the average citizens that drives them, not the siren call of political hacks like Armey who are part of inside the Beltway kleptocrats who have gotten us to this position.

By the way, Palin has made no definitive statement of support for amnesty. She was reticent and equivocating when asked about it in the campaign, in deference to the fact that she was running on McCain's ticket and had to toe the line. Her comments before and since show no support for amnesty and open borders. Don't include her with the Armey types.

80 posted on 03/11/2010 8:46:51 AM PST by oldbill
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