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Senate Plan Calls for National ID Card to Curb Illegal Immigration
Newsmax ^ | March 11, 2010 | Dave Eberhart

Posted on 03/11/2010 6:13:06 AM PST by Irisshlass

A national ID card using biometric data such as fingerprints is at the center of an immigration reform bill being hammered out in the U.S. Senate – a measure that once again probably will pit advocates of homeland security and tough immigration enforcement against civil libertarians, employers and immigrant rights groups.

The new effort by Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Lindsey Graham, R- S.C., will revive the “Real ID” debate that has festered for years with little effect on illegal immigration. Under their plan, a universally required card would be encoded with all sorts of information regarding the holder, as well as contain a unique biometric signature created from either fingerprints or the vein patterns on the tops of the hands.

Bottom line: Employers will not be able to hire applicants who do not present a valid ID.

Schumer and Graham are slated to meet soon with President Barack Obama to brief him on their work. An administration official said the White House has no position on the biometric card, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalaliens; nationalid
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I understand this card is in the healthcare bill.
1 posted on 03/11/2010 6:13:08 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass

I HAVE a national ID card already....it’s called a Social Security Card.


2 posted on 03/11/2010 6:14:30 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Irisshlass

If Chuck the Schmuck and Lindsey Graham want a national ID card it is certainly not to curb Illegal Immigrants.

look for a deeper reason.

These two sweethearts are not against illegal immigrants.


3 posted on 03/11/2010 6:17:00 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Puppage
I HAVE a national ID card already....it’s called a Social Security Card.

Every illegal has them too. ;-)

4 posted on 03/11/2010 6:18:18 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Venturer

Exactly...it is about controlling us.


5 posted on 03/11/2010 6:19:05 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass
It is truly time for the torches & pitchforks or even more.
I promise I will not give up my freedom without a fight.
Semper Fi ...
6 posted on 03/11/2010 6:19:24 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Irisshlass; Liz; AuntB

IOW, “the Real ID Act didn’t go far enough with invading U.S. citizens privacy and states are stonewalling. Let’s step on the gas and federally mandate putting the burden on the citizenry to prove who they are and keep an eye on them instead of the tracking down illegal lawbreakers and sending them back where they belong.”


7 posted on 03/11/2010 6:20:07 AM PST by TADSLOS (Tea Party. We are the party of NO! NO to more government! NO to more spending! NO to more taxation!)
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To: rhombus
Every illegal has them too. ;-)

Ugh! Kick'n me when I am down. Duuuude! :-)

8 posted on 03/11/2010 6:20:55 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage
I HAVE a national ID card already....it’s called a Social Security Card.

Yep, the one that was guaranteed never to be an I.D.

Now you can't do a thing without it.

9 posted on 03/11/2010 6:21:32 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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Ugh! Kick'n me when I am down. Duuuude! :-)

Not me. Just pointing out social security cards are easy to fake. No kicking intended. :-)

10 posted on 03/11/2010 6:25:17 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Irisshlass
This is all such bull$h!t !!!

Just like gun control laws, all it does is data base legitimate citizens and never addresses the problem of illegal aliens.

Put machine gun towers along the borders, fire ever TSA employee and hire only amputeed and medically discharged (for war wounds) vets.

48 hours max ... America will be clean, healthy and moving an economy along that will make our heads swim.

FIRE CONGRESS ... EVERY STINKIN' ONE OF 'EM !!!!

GOOOH !

Get Out Of Our House !!

11 posted on 03/11/2010 6:25:34 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Irisshlass

If the government is going to insist on a national ID card, it must also be required to vote!


12 posted on 03/11/2010 6:28:10 AM PST by tropical
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To: Puppage
I HAVE a national ID card already....it’s called a Social Security Card.

Me too. But you're missing the point. The Democrats can't get their illegal aliens Social Security Cards. So they want to get them "National ID Cards"... Guess what, in 2012 that'll be all you need to vote. It is probably the only way the Democrats can avoid a 180 degree turn around by 2012. I believe after that election the GOP will have the White House and comfortable majorities in both the House and the Senate.

This November's election will tell the tale. When (as I believe), the Democrats get spanked they'll see the writing on the wall for '12 and the push for the "National ID Card" and/or amnesty will begin in earnest.

13 posted on 03/11/2010 6:29:04 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Irisshlass

Mark of the Beast, step one.


14 posted on 03/11/2010 6:29:08 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Irisshlass
I seriously doubt this is in the health care reform bill, because it would leave them open to a procedural objection that it is non-germane to the legislation, bringing things to a halt. This is a sinister, totalitarian idea, but I think it over-estimates the competency of the federal government. It is little more than an attempt at bait and switch. They CLAIM they are going to set up some kind of fool-proof ID system to prevent illegals from getting jobs. But FIRST they want to pass the amnesty, now, right away, immediately, please let us!! and THEN we'll get right to work on that ID system to prevent future illegals from working.

Except that they won’t ever get around to the ID system.

Look at DHS’s record in carrying out previous congressional technology mandates of this sort: the "virtual" fence, the "no fly" list, the scanning of incoming freight, the system that allows Border Patrol stations to communicate with each other, access FBI databases and identify criminals, I could go on, but you get my drift. None of it is ever done effectively. They spend billions and it doesn’t work.

Those who, quite reasonably, fear this ID plan can take comfort in how extremely unlikely it is to ever be established as advertised. It is just one more lie they are willing to tell in order to get their amnesty plan passed.

15 posted on 03/11/2010 6:29:48 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: Venturer
If Chuck the Schmuck and Lindsey Graham want a national ID card it..

Then it will be a DANGER to your freedom, safety and well being.

16 posted on 03/11/2010 6:30:23 AM PST by TYVets (Let's Roll!!! The leadership of the GOP has no spine and no guts, but we conservatives do)
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To: rhombus
Every illegal has them too. ;-)
Maybe with the same number as his
17 posted on 03/11/2010 6:31:23 AM PST by askrenr (Slightly to the right of Attila the Hun.)
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To: rhombus
Every illegal has them too. ;-)
Maybe with the same number as his
18 posted on 03/11/2010 6:32:29 AM PST by askrenr (Slightly to the right of Attila the Hun.)
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To: Irisshlass
Because enforcing the current laws on the books is just too hard. (extreme sarcasm)
19 posted on 03/11/2010 6:33:23 AM PST by airborne ("Peace, Love, Dope" has now become "Hope, Change, Obama" !!!)
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To: ThunderSleeps
Me too. But you're missing the point.

It was sarcasm

20 posted on 03/11/2010 6:36:48 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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