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C-5M Super Galaxy Rated As ‘Effective, Suitable And Mission Capable’
Air Attack.com ^
| 3/10/2010
| Air Attack.com
Posted on 03/10/2010 7:47:24 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: SoldierDad; El Gato
I have some C-5 photos and trivia on my home page.
To: BulletBobCo
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posted on
03/10/2010 8:57:52 PM PST
by
SoldierDad
(Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
To: Ramius
Not bigger, same airframes, just rebuilt rather than newly built. Avionics modernized, with "glass cockpit". New, newly built that is, GE CF6-80C2 commercial engines that power many Boeing 747s, 767s, Airbus 300 and 310s, are part of the update.
Previous engine was the GE TF-39.
The new engines make them more fuel efficient, so they can fly further without refueling, or alternatively they can carry less fuel and more payload. (Although generally they are volume rather than weight limited) However the CF6 family of engines is derived from the TF-39.
Here's an article which talks about the upgrades that resulted in the C-5M.
The same engine will be used on the new Boeing 767 tanker... we hope, which will mean simplified logistics for the Air Force. Now if they'd just stick 4 of them on the BUFF...
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posted on
03/10/2010 9:12:29 PM PST
by
El Gato
("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
To: rottndog
I believe they are using different engines now...it doesnt have that signature sound anymore. It might not be so terribly different, just not so so much whine to go with the "growl" . I heard a 767 taking off yesterday, but I though it might be a C-5 before I looked. Of course the 767 only has two of the CF6 engines, Fat Albert has 4.
I hope they are not so very different. I used to work in San Antonio right under the approach to Kelly field (at Lackland AFB), which has an AF Reserve C-5 "school house" unit. I still work for the company, but now on Ft. Hood, where the AAF runway is only about 1/2 mile from the building. That same reserve unit's birds can often been seen in the pattern at Gray AAF.
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posted on
03/10/2010 9:17:20 PM PST
by
El Gato
("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
To: BulletBobCo
Great photos and stories. Question: With all that wasted volume carrying limos, wouldn’t it make more sense to fly 2 or 3 smaller cargo jets, each with a single file row of limos?
Or is this more a matter of “presence”, by having your car arrive in the BFA around?
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posted on
03/10/2010 9:20:41 PM PST
by
Atlas Sneezed
(Anything worth doing is worth doing badly at first.)
To: El Gato
Ah! Very well! Thanks for the info.
Regarding the Buff... It’s just mind-blowing how many years and how much mileage we’ve gotten out of that airframe.
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posted on
03/10/2010 9:31:07 PM PST
by
Ramius
(Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
To: El Gato
Back in my Navy days, whenst I was with my boat an Mare Island in Nor Cal, I used to go up to Travis AFB just to watch these behemoths fly in and out. It boggles the mind that something so huge can stay in the air....especially when from a distance, it looks like they are going so damn slow.
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posted on
03/10/2010 9:34:42 PM PST
by
rottndog
(WOOF!!!)
To: Beelzebubba
We also carried up to 70 Secret Service in the troop compartment. Other C-5s also carried Presidential helicopters and “other” equipment. Loading and unloading the vehicles was done quickly.
To: Ben Hecks
Departed TSN RVN (Saigon), essentially a fighter strip, on the first C-5 that landed on that strip in 1971. Flew to Japan. It was loaded with two Chinooks as I recall. We watched a movie set up inside one of the Chinooks. I remember being up in the passenger area, I was the only non crew member, looking down on the rotor hubs of a Chinook. It was so huge the whole experience was and still seems surreal.
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posted on
03/10/2010 9:48:20 PM PST
by
crabpott
(' we are living in the strangest, most perilous, and unbelievable decade in modern memory' VDH)
To: feedback doctor
The C-5 isn’t all that big.
It’s just twice as far away as you thought it was.
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posted on
03/10/2010 9:50:29 PM PST
by
Interesting Times
(For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
To: sonofstrangelove
You're at an Air Force base and see three C-5 Galaxies on the flight line. Two of them are sitting on jacks. What can you deduce from this scenario?
Answer: The base only has two sets of jacks.
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posted on
03/10/2010 9:53:50 PM PST
by
AlaskaErik
(I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
To: Ramius
Whats the difference between the super galaxy and the plain old regular galaxy? Bigger?Bigger, more powerful engines, and a completely redone cockpit avionics suite...the "glass cockpit" is used extensively in the M model.
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posted on
03/10/2010 9:57:41 PM PST
by
JRios1968
(The real first rule of Fight Club: don't invite Chuck Norris...EVER)
To: El Gato
The same engine will be used on the new Boeing 767 tanker... we hope, which will mean simplified logistics for the Air Force. Now if they'd just stick 4 of them on the BUFF... For whatever reason, they've had a devil of a time getting that funded over the last decade or two.
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posted on
03/11/2010 1:49:11 AM PST
by
Erasmus
(Give to the Antonio Janigro College Fund; a strong bow is a terrible thing to waste.)
To: Interesting Times
The C-5 isnt all that big. Its just twice as far away as you thought it was.
That's a good one. And the A-124 is 3 times further away than I thought it was.
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posted on
03/11/2010 2:32:51 AM PST
by
feedback doctor
(The US Constituiton is a Capitalist document)
To: Ben Hecks
"...The crew area has seating for something like 24 plus two bedrooms that sleep three each..."I saw one at El Toro Marine Base when I was about ten, and got to look around it. I did not have the presence of mind to look then, but I've always wondered over the years: Is there a bathroom, or do they have to make "truckers' lemonade"?
To: I Buried My Guns
One bathroom up front and two in the back.
Regarding the bunk rooms, when I flew them we used to say “we can sleep six or **** twelve.”
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posted on
03/11/2010 7:26:41 AM PST
by
starlifter
(Sapor Amo Pullus)
To: BulletBobCo
My mom’s ex-boyfriend was a loadmaster on the C-5. He took me into one at an airshow. Wow. I used to think the C-130’s were big.
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posted on
03/11/2010 7:30:24 AM PST
by
thefactor
(yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
To: sonofstrangelove
Big & loud. I remember them well. A couple used to land at Kelly AFB. I cannot remember if they were stationed there.
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posted on
03/11/2010 7:35:17 AM PST
by
alarm rider
(The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
To: feedback doctor
I remember watching those babies fly in and out of McDill back during GW I. Impressive machines.
To: Ramius
Before and after pics of cockpit.
![](http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/AIR_C-5_Galaxy_Cockpit_lg.jpg)
![](http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/ELEC_C-5M_AMP_Cockpit_Trainer_lg.jpg)
And a size perspective. KC-135 and C5
![](http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/AIR_C-5_Refuelling_w_KC-135_lg.jpg)
It looks like you could take the wings off a KC-135, and maybe cram two of them inside a Galaxy.
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