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Steyn: Why Democrats Risk Control … Health Care Is “Worth It”
http://radioviceonline.com/ ^ | March 10, 2010 | Steve McGough

Posted on 03/10/2010 4:31:21 PM PST by Biggirl

Mark Steyn had a pretty good editorial over on Investors.com on Friday. He agrees on my point that Democrats in Washington are perfectly willing to give up control of Congress if they can get federal health care legislation. Steyn writes…

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bloggersandpersonal; democrats; healthcare; liberalfascism; marksteyn; obamacare; poisonpill; socialisthealthcare; steyn
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The Dems on sucide watch, will to be kamakaze on this healthcare issue.
1 posted on 03/10/2010 4:31:22 PM PST by Biggirl
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Harry Reid’s Nevada has the highest unemployment rate at 12.5% - and it’s about to get worse.


2 posted on 03/10/2010 4:34:42 PM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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The des think its worth it to pass a liberty reduction law that the citizens do not want. Worth it?

They will have riots in the streets over this and a 20% minority in both houses after 2012, and everything they put in place will be repealed.

Trillions of dollars wasted , all because John McCain did not ask the right questions about Obama during the campaign.

NEVER AGAIN!!!!!!!

3 posted on 03/10/2010 4:35:42 PM PST by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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If this passes I don’t want to hear any reasons it cannot be repealed. Anyone who does not intend to repeal this crap should be thrown out!


4 posted on 03/10/2010 4:42:39 PM PST by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: Biggirl

Original column here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2465194/posts


5 posted on 03/10/2010 4:43:16 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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It will be repealed, both the House and Senate WILL have no choice once the people RISE UP this year and in 2012.


6 posted on 03/10/2010 4:44:07 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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The pro-life Democrats are in between a rock and a hard place on this. They either vote for communism by voting for ObamaCare or they’ll be accused of being homosexuals by the Pelosi and Reid mobsters and thugs. I think their only way out is to vote for ObamaCare with a fake promise from Barry the Kenyan and his Chicago thugs that abortion funding will be removed after the bill is passed. More than likely, Barry the Kenyan has already told them to just pin the blame on him, Piglosi and Dingy when the funding isn’t removed and probably increased.


7 posted on 03/10/2010 4:45:40 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (A proud American-American since 1949.)
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Stein’s premise is that even if the Democrats lose big this November, it’s all good, because the Republicans won’t have the cojones to dismantle the bureaucracy. Last time I looked, the Department of Education was still there. Ditto the Department of Energy.


8 posted on 03/10/2010 4:47:02 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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Well not this time around, we are keeping an eye on THEM!


9 posted on 03/10/2010 4:48:48 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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Yep, he should quit with the bs.


10 posted on 03/10/2010 4:49:21 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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This is really turning out to be the biggest congressional battle in the last 60 years, since the civil rights legislation in the 60’s. With even more at stake.


11 posted on 03/10/2010 4:50:01 PM PST by circlecity
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“Code Red” – Tennessee Democrat Congressmen Targeted

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published this Tennessee target list on health care. You can also go to http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to conveniently contact some of these guys. Never mind about the so-called “fixit bill”: the way to defeat Obamacare is by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.
PLEASE CALL ………....... WASHINGTON DC ..….. LOCAL DISTRICT …..…
Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
Rep. John S. Tanner 202-225-4714 Jackson office: 731-423-4848
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131

12 posted on 03/10/2010 4:54:09 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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It will be repealed . . .

This is doing the rounds, appears to say repeal isn't possible as it binds future administrations:

The impudent tyranny of Sen. Harry Reid
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada is proving once again the maxim that darkness hates the light.

Buried in his massive amendment to the Senate version of Obamacare is Reid's anti-democratic poison pill designed to prevent any future Congress from repealing the central feature of this monstrous legislation!

Beginning on page 1,000 of the measure, Section 3403 reads in part: ". it shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection."

In other words, if President Barack Obama signs this measure into law, no future Senate or House will be able to change a single word of Section 3403, regardless whether future Americans or their representatives in Congress wish otherwise!!

Note that the subsection at issue here concerns the regulatory power of the Independent Medicare Advisory Board (IMAB) to "reduce the per capita rate of growth in Medicare spending."

That is precisely the kind of open-ended grant of regulatory power that effectively establishes the IMAB as the ultimate arbiter of the cost, quality and quantity of health care to be made available to the American people. And Reid wants the decisions of this group of unelected federal bureaucrats to be untouchable for all time. No wonder the majority leader tossed aside assurances that senators and the public would have at least 72 hours to study the text of the final Senate version of Obamacare before the critical vote on cloture. And no wonder Reid was so desperate to rush his amendment through the Senate, even scheduling the key tally on it at 1 a.m., while America slept.

True to form, Reid wanted to keep his Section 3403 poison pill secret for as long as possible, just as he negotiated his bribes for the votes of Senators Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Bernie Sanders of Vermont behind closed doors.

The final Orwellian touch in this subversion of democratic procedure is found in the ruling of the Reid-controlled Senate Parliamentarian that the anti-repeal provision is not a change in Senate rules, but rather of Senate "procedures." Why is that significant? Because for 200 years, changes in the Senate's standing rules have required approval by two-thirds of those voting, or 67 votes rather than the 60 Reid's amendment received.

Reid has flouted two centuries of standing Senate rules to pass a measure in the dead of night that no senator has read, and part of which can never be changed. If this is not tyranny, then what is?

13 posted on 03/10/2010 4:56:29 PM PST by 1066AD
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Will SCOTUS overturn it if the idiots pass it?


14 posted on 03/10/2010 5:00:50 PM PST by Jim W N
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I think your post deserves it’s own thread.


15 posted on 03/10/2010 5:03:03 PM PST by presently no screen name
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If Dems win on health care, they have won forever. There has never been an entitlement repealed. If they win here, its over.
16 posted on 03/10/2010 5:05:15 PM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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How is this going to be repealed? It ain’t - EVER. Republicans will need a strong majority, which they may at some point get, but they will need political courage, which they will never, ever have — ever. It will never get repealed.


17 posted on 03/10/2010 5:05:19 PM PST by Obadiah (Democrats and their life partners, the MSM)
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Unconstitutional as hell. Either the Supremes will smack it or there will be “very bad stuff”.


18 posted on 03/10/2010 5:13:45 PM PST by OKSooner
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It will be repealed, both the House and Senate WILL have no choice once the people RISE UP this year and in 2012.

It takes 67 votes in the Senate to override Obama's certain veto of any repeal legislation. Republicans are 17 votes short.

19 posted on 03/10/2010 5:48:46 PM PST by Procyon (An well-armed society is a polite society.)
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“This is doing the rounds, appears to say repeal isn’t possible as it binds future administrations: “

Baloney.

Congress can’t pass a law they can’t undo.


20 posted on 03/10/2010 5:57:34 PM PST by webstersII
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