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The audacity of hope apparently includes a total disregard for the law and the Constitution. But then, we'd pretty much figured that out by now. Its just surprising to see this raw, naked example of it.
1 posted on 03/10/2010 3:32:37 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque

These Dems are pure evil.


2 posted on 03/10/2010 3:34:15 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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The Chicago Way.

Lord, deliver us from the evil that is in Washington.


3 posted on 03/10/2010 3:36:43 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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I’d be happy if they passed it this way! It would be totally illegal and could easily be negated!


4 posted on 03/10/2010 3:37:42 PM PST by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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This is Honduras. But we have guns. A lot of them.

I was trying to explain to family in Australia about guns in the US. The LAST thing they thought was that their purpose is to protect us from the government.


5 posted on 03/10/2010 3:38:01 PM PST by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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It is only illegal if a court so rules. The Dems may believe that by the time a case works its way through the courts, they will have sufficiently packed the appellate levels and the Supreme Court that the law is what they say it is.
6 posted on 03/10/2010 3:39:01 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Reaganesque

This is getting uglier and uglier.


7 posted on 03/10/2010 3:42:31 PM PST by HarleyD
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All of this was well-covered in “Ideocracy”.


8 posted on 03/10/2010 3:43:09 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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This is not going to happen, no way no how.


9 posted on 03/10/2010 3:43:52 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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Be in DC with us on 4/15 and seriously disrupt the city.

Civil disobedience. I have come to the conclusion that is the *minimum* that will get their attention.

Are you reading this Janet??


12 posted on 03/10/2010 3:45:11 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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Democrats holding a voice vote on display....

Murtha Voice Vote

13 posted on 03/10/2010 3:47:49 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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If they dont have to follow what the law says, Niether do I.

I know the Chicago way. Lots and lots of bullets!


17 posted on 03/10/2010 3:50:55 PM PST by Delta 21 (If you cant tell if I'm being sarcastic...maybe I'm not.)
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The question now is whether they still have the shame to care about either.

No. Never have. We've known that all along.

19 posted on 03/10/2010 3:52:46 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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“And unlike other Unconstitutional things Congress does, there’s caselaw here suggesting pretty clearly that when Congress attempts to pass a law in the absence of proper bicameralism and presentment, a person negatively affected by Congress’s action (e.g., a person required to pay a fine for not having health insurance) has standing to challenge the law’s validity in the Courts. This farce is illegal and unconstitutional on its face, and someone has to be advising the Democrats in the House of this fact. They already know the American people don’t want this bill. They know by now that what they’re trying to do is illegal. The question now is whether they still have the shame to care about either.”

That’s from the article.


22 posted on 03/10/2010 3:54:58 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776 (pertinent statements)

[I know it looks a little long, but the Declaration contains statements which are not often brought to our attention.]

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. ... The history of the present King of Great Britain [George III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. ... He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance. ... He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: ... For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: ... For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences: ... For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: ... For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. ... He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us."

--- Fortunately, all WE have to do is vote in November.

24 posted on 03/10/2010 3:56:05 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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What is the contemporary version of Torches and Pitchforks?????


29 posted on 03/10/2010 4:00:45 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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So, the real question is: "Will the officers of the United States military support this junta that would thus urinate on the Constitution?"

The day this happens, our nation becomes a tyranny.

31 posted on 03/10/2010 4:02:15 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority (As Wichita falls so falls Wichita Falls)
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They already know the American people don’t want this bill. They know by now that what they’re trying to do is illegal. The question now is whether they still have the shame to care about either.

It's obvious that both questions must be answered in the negative.

They don't care about the opinions of The People, nor about legality, especially Constitutional legality. Concern for legality is for the "little people".

32 posted on 03/10/2010 4:10:03 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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A few years back, perhaps during GWB’s first administration, the State of Tennessee was attempting to pass an income tax because their experiment with state-wide universal healthcare (TennCare) was bankrupting the state. I don't recall all the facts but if memory serves, the citizens of Tennessee, having grown tired of being ignored, did a march on the capital and somewhat incarcerated their representatives in their chambers.
We have seen successful Tea Party gatherings that mustered over a million or more attendees. Perhaps it is time to do a gathering at the Capitol and subject all the members venturing outside to millions of angry voices. It could be a reverse townhall meeting.
Regardless of the calm the likes of Michael Medved or Bill Bennett hope to instill or the sheer naivety they exhibit, the fact is actions like this by our representatives suggest a coup has taken place and they have silently established themselves as collectively, Dictators-for-Life. If you have to ask “take our country back from whom”, you need look no further than actions like these.
33 posted on 03/10/2010 4:11:30 PM PST by Tucson (Sometimes we feel guilty because we are guilty)
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I do not want Obama IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED.


38 posted on 03/10/2010 4:16:13 PM PST by Gator113 (I do not want Obama IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED.)
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If the Dems get away with this, literally ANYTHING is possible.

It's an exercise in faux constitutionality, and if it flies he can ignore the constitution entirely. How long will it take before Obama decides he doesn't need the political cover of a legislative body at all? Or for that matter, a SCOTUS?

I've been thinking of awful scenarios in which the SCOTUS declares a law unconstitutional and Obama, with the blessing of a Dem Congress, simply implements the law regardless of the Supreme's ruling. What happens then? The SCOTUS has no troops. Implementing court decisions is the burden of law enforcement, but what if they simply refuse?

43 posted on 03/10/2010 4:25:21 PM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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