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Dutch plan to let healthy elderly people commit suicide
The Telegraph ^ | 3/10/2010 | Bruno Waterfield in Brussels

Posted on 03/10/2010 12:31:31 PM PST by bruinbirdman

Healthy elderly people who are simply "tired of living" could be allowed to end their lives with a lethal injection under new euthanasia laws being debated by the Dutch parliament.

The country's MPs will discuss the "right to die" proposals after a campaign forced a debate by collecting over 100,000 signatures in support.

The influential Dutch "Right to Die" campaign, active since 1973, has launched new "vrijwillig levenseinde", or "of free will", demands to extend euthanasia beyond assisted suicide for terminally ill people.

The group has proposed training non-medical staff to administer a lethal injection to healthy people over the age of 70 who "consider their lives complete" and want to die.

Under the plans, the suicide assistants would be certified and would be required to make sure that patients were not temporarily depressed and had a "heartfelt and enduring desire" to die.

Marie-Jose Grotenhuis, the campaign's spokeswoman, said: "We've been overwhelmed by the amount of reactions, especially because people took it so seriously and reactions were mostly positive."

Euthanasia was legalised in Holland in 2002 and the new proposals have been backed by the majority of people in Dutch opinion polls.

The Royal Dutch Medical Association is divided over calls to extend euthanasia beyond those suffering from painful terminal illnesses and has set up a committee to examine the proposals.

Sander Hofman, the association's spokesman, said: "For instance, a doctor probably has a role in easing the suffering of a person who is refusing to eat or drink."

Several European countries, including neighbouring Belgium, allow euthanasia for terminally ill people who wish to die. Britain and France allow terminally ill people to refuse medical treatment but stop short of allowing active assisted suicide.

The Dutch legalisation for euthanasia for the terminally ill was preceded by decades of negotiations that

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21 posted on 03/10/2010 1:12:15 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The group has proposed training non-medical staff to administer a lethal injection to healthy people over the age of 70 who "consider their lives complete are shovel ready" and want to die.
22 posted on 03/10/2010 1:15:22 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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The group has proposed training non-medical staff to administer a lethal injection to healthy people. . .

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23 posted on 03/10/2010 1:19:22 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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Horrible. How bad is it going to get? Mandatory is just around the corner.

24 posted on 03/10/2010 1:25:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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Oops - you already got it! I’m having a problem - when I copy the Moral Abosolutes message thingie, it has part of it twice. I don’t think I’m doing it, it just seems to be happening.

Sorry I’m a techtard.


25 posted on 03/10/2010 1:26:37 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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Sorry I don’t think people will be forced to kill themselves.
The involuntary euthanasia of minors?
No parental consent?


26 posted on 03/10/2010 1:27:04 PM PST by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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Sorry I don’t think people will be forced to kill themselves.

What you "think" isn't at all important, I talking about what has historically happened.

27 posted on 03/10/2010 1:29:31 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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28 posted on 03/10/2010 1:29:51 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

wow. Sorry to respond with what I think.


29 posted on 03/10/2010 1:31:16 PM PST by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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I’m not being harsh, I’m simply saying that your opinion is irrelevant on this subject. Involuntary euthanasia is going on every day all over the world and the fact that you don’t “think” it is doesn’t change anything.


30 posted on 03/10/2010 1:33:24 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Wouldn’t it be nice if we could end involuntary “euthanasia” by just thinking it away?


31 posted on 03/10/2010 1:40:52 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: DesertRhino

Right to Die, very quickly becomes Duty to Die.


32 posted on 03/10/2010 1:41:47 PM PST by dfwgator
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Nope,,,not forced. What will happen will be more subtle, but just as sickening. You are 83 and need some help sometimes,,or maybe have a medical condition. Your doctor will helpfully inform you that you have suicide as an option. You will be made aware that by debate,,that people like you are greedy for soaking up scarce medical resources. Some will slowly start to notice resented by people who want their inheritance, or want to be relieved of the burden.

And then, almost imperceptably, the presumption will have changed. The elderly will then feel an invisible, but a very real pressure. They will think they should justify why they choose to live.


33 posted on 03/10/2010 1:42:44 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: bruinbirdman

They have government health care, right? Saves the system money don’t you know.


34 posted on 03/10/2010 1:44:43 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: wagglebee

fine.
You may not think it but you sound rather snotty.


35 posted on 03/10/2010 1:49:55 PM PST by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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You may not think it but you sound rather snotty.

You don't seem to understand, what we "think" is irrelevant:

Patients receive lethal injections without giving their consent (involuntary euthanasia)
 
Non-Terminal Cases (Netherlands Involuntary Euthanasia)
 
Researcher to Dutch Government: Allow Euthanasia for Newborns Based on Foreseeable Suffering
 
(UK) Doctors engaged in ‘slow euthanasia’ for patients with terminal illnesses
 
..."The truth is, he had expressed to his family that he did want to go" (euthanasia plug?)
 
Death Doctors: Like abortion 50 years ago, euthanasia now is poised at the top of a slippery slope
 
Irish Protestors Shut Down Speech by "Involuntary Euthanasia" Activist

36 posted on 03/10/2010 1:52:19 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Nope,,,not forced. What will happen will be more subtle, but just as sickening.

And once the public is duped into accepting this, the culture of death will acknowledge what has ALWAYS been their agenda:

This person suffering from hereditary defects
costs the people 60,000 Reichmarks during his lifetime.
People, that is your money. Read ‘New People’.

37 posted on 03/10/2010 1:55:52 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Dutch plan to let healthy elderly people commit suicide

We won't need that option once 0bamao's healthscare Death Panels get cranked up.

38 posted on 03/10/2010 2:00:49 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (There's a commie in the White House - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: wagglebee

Ever notice that propaganda poster always either shuts them up or gets them riled? So I wonder, is it a thread killer this time, or are they about to pile on?


39 posted on 03/10/2010 2:02:09 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: wagglebee

Either way, you know it got their attention.


40 posted on 03/10/2010 2:20:04 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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