[AuntB]

This criticism is from a guy who really likes McCain. (That makes about 5 people in the entire nation!)

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

American Citizens May Be Held Without Charge During Hostilities

Uh, no.

[RC2]

I thought this could only be done under Martial Law?

[La Lydia]

Does this provision apply on American soil, or only overseas?

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

McCain/Kerry F the POWS/MIAS
McCain/Feingold F free speech
McCain/Kennedy F American Sovereignty
McCain/Gang of 14
McCain/Keating 5
McCain/Terrorist Bill of Rights
McCain/Gun Grabber
McCain/Does not like tax cuts

More? TARP

[Oldpuppymax]

Unless I’m misreading the article, Mr. Merritt considers water-boarding “insane.” Perhaps he also winces at the thought of the dreaded “comfy chair!”

[HerrBlucher]

We already have precedent for this with the internment of Japanese who were American citizens in ww2. I don’t know how FDR got around the constitution on that one, but around it he got and with near full support of the citizenry.

[Palter]

A Detention Bill You Ought to Read More Carefully

[BlueDragon]

Well, now I’m not sure. While it still may be nothing to blink at in the end, I find one provision in this bill – to paraphrase Chief Justice John Roberts – very troubling.

from my own reading of it, it appeared less than clear in it's definitions of to whom, and when, the provisions would apply. It looked to potentially have all kinds of loosy-goosy wiggle room *interpretation* apps.

The definitions needed tightening. As it was, it did appear clear enough that it could be used against citizens, when they were allied with enemies. The trouble is, we suppose, it would be a simple matter to just declare someone an enemy of the State under the provisions...then off to the Gulag you go...

[tumblindice]

The English movers-and-shakers were bad about tossing someone they didn’t like in gaol (jail, the Tower) then losing the key.
The Framers decided that wouldn’t happen here, so they formalized the right to a writ of habeus corpus (`bring forth the body’) and the right to a speedy trial.
The Sedition act under Adams showed what happens when the party in power decides to punish its political enemies; now
McCain seeks to overturn 200 years of American jurisprudence.
The libertarians must be steaming over this, as well they (and we) should, and anyone who has sworn an oath to defend the Constitution.

[Rockingham]

Keep in mind that the Supreme Court upheld the WW II detentions of Japanese Americans and other US citizens of questionable loyalty. In war time, the Constitution permits measures that would be prohibited in times of peace.

[Little Ray]

"An individual, including a citizen of the United States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent under section 3(c)(2) in a manner which satisfies Article 5 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners in which the individual has engaged, or which the individual has purposely and materially supported, consistent with the law of war and any authorization for the use of military force provided by Congress pertaining to such hostilities."

I'm not seeing the problem here. If you are waging war against the US inside its borders, whether a citizen or not, they shouldn't need to "charge" you to put you in POW camp. Is there something generic in section 3(c)(2) that would allow the Federales to just arrest and detain people for purely political reasons?

Of course shooting the individual in question dead would probably be a better option...

[freekitty]

Well this is the final nail in his coffin.

[bamahead]

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[call meVeronica]

ping & bump for later read

[Servant of the Cross]

0bama, Holder, Emanuel would do this, sure. McCain? I didn't think even he was this insane.

[Renegade]

Get this maniac out of office ASAP!