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To: AuntB

We already have precedent for this with the internment of Japanese who were American citizens in ww2. I don’t know how FDR got around the constitution on that one, but around it he got and with near full support of the citizenry.


8 posted on 03/10/2010 8:56:16 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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To: HerrBlucher
We already have precedent for this with the internment of Japanese who were American citizens in ww2. I don’t know how FDR got around the constitution on that one,

If you read the actual words of the 4th and 5th amendments, you'll see that detention without formal charges (habeus corpus denial) is not really covered. Meanwhile, back in the main body of the Constitution:

The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
Art. II Section 9.

This seems to be for those caputured while engaged in hostilities against the US and/or it's allies. At least in spirit, the fifth amendment's exemption:

"except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia when in actual service in time of War or public danger;"

would seem to apply. Why should terrorists and illegal combatants (even a rebel within the US is a legal combatent if they wear a uniform or other identifying items, and are part of a chain of command) have more rights than members of our own military and militia forces?

Could it be abused? Sure, but someone willing to do so isn't going to need such a law to perpetuate such abuses.

19 posted on 03/10/2010 9:12:49 AM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: HerrBlucher
Lincoln also suspended Habeas Corpus during the Civil War, so there is more than one precedent. So far as I know, though, the practice has never been codified into (blatantly unconstitutional - not that Mr. McCain has had a problem with that in the past) law and goes against what has been the long time trend in USSC decisions.

PS, Herr Blucher ... do the horses neigh at the mention of your name too?

37 posted on 03/10/2010 9:36:43 AM PST by katana (Interesting Times)
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