Posted on 03/09/2010 1:39:29 PM PST by Ronbo1948
True conservatives value one thing over any thing else: societal stability.
WTF Is that?
He’s making an argument about tactics. I think that misses the point.
The issue that should concern conservatives is that the Tea Party movement is a populist movement. And populist movements are inherently unconservative.
When liberalism reigns, conservatism is revolutionary and stability is not the highest priority. The “status quo” as conservative dictionary-definition was debunked a long time ago.
The foremost conservative government in the history of the world — the American government — was instituted by revolution. Conservatism is not only about stability.
SnakeDoc
Moscow’s First Tea Party
http://www.infowars.com/moscows-first-tea-party
I think this “social stability” stuff is a caricature of wise conservatism. Often earthly shake-ups are good and necessary when we are concerned with conserving or restoring timeless good. Chaos for chaos’s sake is a lefty thing.
I don’t know! I’m a conservative and I don’t have stability on my list!
As soon as I read the coined phrase “Wal-Mart Hippies” I knew this thing was nothing I’d be interested in.
How true. It is about conserving, or restoring if necessary, timeless things that are good.
ML/NJ
FTA: ““The Rules For Radicals” was designed as a guide for the left to use to tear down civil society and build up something utopian in its place. It tactics are not applicable to those of us who value a stable, civil, and prosperous nation.”
My reading of Alinsy’s Rules is that it is about attacking organizational cohesiveness. As such it seems totally appropriate to turn their tactics back on them to achieve that effect and thereby advance conservative candidates. Stability and civility = RINO, IMO. Prosperity results from economic freedom and choice which is certainly not the status quo.
“True conservatives value one thing over any thing else: societal stability.”
BS.
The USSR has “societal stability” at the cost of liberty and individual rights. “True” conservatives are not slaves to the state.
One thing I like is the flexibility of the movement. It appears to be “round robin” and free spirited. I’m talking as an outsider, never having attended any. But when I joined the Online Tax Revolt, I chose to march with Joe the Plumber — he’s in the tea party.
I love the online march — easy and hassle free. Over 150,000 strong. Wish there was a healthcare march just like it.
You can view the march here:
http://www.onlinetaxrevolt.com/march
This piece has the ring of a thinking hard lefty trying to analyse the conservative movement when he really has no understanding of conservatism.
Having read this tripe I can understand why this guy idolizes David Brooks.
When ‘stability’ equates to maintaining the ‘State’, and its massive bureaucracy; and being ‘radical’ means supporting and advocating the US Constitution — then ‘radical’ it is...
The guy thinks conservatism means "lie back and enjoy it".
No. Sorry. He misunderstands the nature of American conservatism, which is not mere traditionalism and does not make a fetish of stability.
We're constitutionalists. The founders were revolutionaries who bought our system at the point of a gun. We believe in liberty, and we're not going to let the Obamists have their way just in the name of civil stability.
Liberty upturns applecarts on all sides just by its very nature. Constitutionalism defends your right to build and create and prosper or fail, which sets the stage for the most dynamic society on the face of the earth. Its the marxists who want to sink the earth into a feudal stasis, not us. Its the marxists who fear liberty and all the messiness that comes with it. Not us, thats the sea we swim in.
Well, David Brooks and John Feeherty could have saved themselves a lot of verbiage and not looked so totally foolish if they realized the “tea partiers” they speak of who are NOT conservative are the RonPaul et al lie-bertarians who have infiltrated and claimed the TPs for themselves and who are running in congressional and gubernatorial races as Republicans.
Anyone can look at this site and see what the lie-bertarians are up to: http://www.rlc.org/
There also is an area on Free Republic called the RLC Liberty Caucus, which bothers some posters.
When timeless good is honored, society will tend to be more stable, but we cannot put the cart before the horse.
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