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Radical Republicans? "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice," said Barry Goldwater.
1 posted on 03/09/2010 1:39:30 PM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: Ronbo1948
Who is this moron? Sniffing David Brooks' farts is bad for one's mental state, apparently.

True conservatives value one thing over any thing else: societal stability.

WTF Is that?

2 posted on 03/09/2010 1:42:41 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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He’s making an argument about tactics. I think that misses the point.

The issue that should concern conservatives is that the Tea Party movement is a populist movement. And populist movements are inherently unconservative.


3 posted on 03/09/2010 1:42:52 PM PST by MrRobertPlant2009
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When liberalism reigns, conservatism is revolutionary and stability is not the highest priority. The “status quo” as conservative dictionary-definition was debunked a long time ago.

The foremost conservative government in the history of the world — the American government — was instituted by revolution. Conservatism is not only about stability.

SnakeDoc


4 posted on 03/09/2010 1:43:04 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (The night is darkest just before the dawn, but [...] the dawn is coming. -- Harvey Dent)
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I think this “social stability” stuff is a caricature of wise conservatism. Often earthly shake-ups are good and necessary when we are concerned with conserving or restoring timeless good. Chaos for chaos’s sake is a lefty thing.


6 posted on 03/09/2010 1:46:04 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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As soon as I read the coined phrase “Wal-Mart Hippies” I knew this thing was nothing I’d be interested in.


8 posted on 03/09/2010 1:46:33 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (You don't have to be ignorant to be a Democrat...but if you are...so what?)
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I guess I'm not sure what the "Tea Party Movement" is. I've been to a couple of things that people associated with tea parties, and everyone I talked to seemed like they should be a FReeper if they weren't already.

ML/NJ

10 posted on 03/09/2010 1:48:32 PM PST by ml/nj
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FTA: ““The Rules For Radicals” was designed as a guide for the left to use to tear down civil society and build up something utopian in its place. It tactics are not applicable to those of us who value a stable, civil, and prosperous nation.”

My reading of Alinsy’s Rules is that it is about attacking organizational cohesiveness. As such it seems totally appropriate to turn their tactics back on them to achieve that effect and thereby advance conservative candidates. Stability and civility = RINO, IMO. Prosperity results from economic freedom and choice which is certainly not the status quo.


11 posted on 03/09/2010 1:48:58 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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Silly article.
Has Soros just bought the Daily Caller, or he's owned it all along?
12 posted on 03/09/2010 1:49:27 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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“True conservatives value one thing over any thing else: societal stability.”

BS.

The USSR has “societal stability” at the cost of liberty and individual rights. “True” conservatives are not slaves to the state.


13 posted on 03/09/2010 1:49:29 PM PST by DB
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This piece has the ring of a thinking hard lefty trying to analyse the conservative movement when he really has no understanding of conservatism.


15 posted on 03/09/2010 1:49:53 PM PST by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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Having read this tripe I can understand why this guy idolizes David Brooks.


16 posted on 03/09/2010 1:49:59 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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When ‘stability’ equates to maintaining the ‘State’, and its massive bureaucracy; and being ‘radical’ means supporting and advocating the US Constitution — then ‘radical’ it is...


17 posted on 03/09/2010 1:50:05 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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They use Alinsky’s rules against the left, but by doing so they create anarchy.

The guy thinks conservatism means "lie back and enjoy it".

No. Sorry. He misunderstands the nature of American conservatism, which is not mere traditionalism and does not make a fetish of stability.

We're constitutionalists. The founders were revolutionaries who bought our system at the point of a gun. We believe in liberty, and we're not going to let the Obamists have their way just in the name of civil stability.

Liberty upturns applecarts on all sides just by its very nature. Constitutionalism defends your right to build and create and prosper or fail, which sets the stage for the most dynamic society on the face of the earth. Its the marxists who want to sink the earth into a feudal stasis, not us. Its the marxists who fear liberty and all the messiness that comes with it. Not us, thats the sea we swim in.

18 posted on 03/09/2010 1:50:47 PM PST by marron
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Well, David Brooks and John Feeherty could have saved themselves a lot of verbiage and not looked so totally foolish if they realized the “tea partiers” they speak of who are NOT conservative are the RonPaul et al lie-bertarians who have infiltrated and claimed the TPs for themselves and who are running in congressional and gubernatorial races as Republicans.

Anyone can look at this site and see what the lie-bertarians are up to: http://www.rlc.org/

There also is an area on Free Republic called the RLC Liberty Caucus, which bothers some posters.


19 posted on 03/09/2010 1:51:48 PM PST by La Enchiladita (wise gringa)
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The New Left

Got their start as Red Diaper doper babies. Indoctrinated in Marxist ideals and the calls for revolution by their parents, instructors, and "comrades".

Those who come to conservativism probably point to one individual here or there who got them on the path (and then led them to more reading, etc).

The dominant media has browbeat the public for decades that to be "politically correct" is to be liberal. Anything else is satirized and demonized and wholly misrepresented. Even historical accounts are revised to serve the movement.

21 posted on 03/09/2010 1:53:57 PM PST by a fool in paradise
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It is even more fun to follow Glen Beck’s conspiracy theories, to connect the dots in ways that were never meant to be connected

Thats funny, when you consider that the most dangerous thing he does is to roll the tape and let us hear them speak with their own words coming out of their own mouths.

25 posted on 03/09/2010 1:55:32 PM PST by marron
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“True Conservatives” by this guy’s definition would have loved Mussolini.


28 posted on 03/09/2010 1:56:56 PM PST by DManA
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When you have a Kenyan Muslim Communist in charge, determined to destroy the country with the help of corrupt idiots like Pelosi and Reid, then that’s hardly the time to sit back on your sofa and think about Original Sin.

Yes, there is original sin. And there’s also actual sin. And there’s evil. And I’m sorry to say that evil people have taken over our country. Corrupt, greedy, power-drunk, heartless. The kind of people who like to kill babies and smile while they do it.


29 posted on 03/09/2010 1:57:29 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The term “conservative” in our country usually applies to individuals that believe the constitution should be followed as written and do not believe it is a living document unless the amendment process is followed.

But non-conservatives sometimes forget that that same constitution was written by revolutionaries. If the constitution has become ignored and irrelevant over time that revolutionary spirit will return. The term Tea Partier fits that feeling very well.


30 posted on 03/09/2010 1:57:50 PM PST by toast
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Wow, what an idiot.

A civil society does not pass on trillions of dollars of debt to children not yet born.

A civil society does not force its citizens into an inferior health care system while providing the political class with a superior system just for themselves.

A civil society does not seek to destroy law-abiding businesses with destructive regulations and fees to battle an imaginary crisis.

A civil society does not confiscate the wealth of the nation and dole out the spoils out to its political comrades.

A marxist society is NOT a civil society.

And to compare the Tea Party to the radicals of the sixties is idiotic in the extreme. How many inner cities have the Tea Partiers burned down? How many cops have they killed? How many soldiers have they spit on? How many god-awful folk singers have they unleashed?

31 posted on 03/09/2010 1:58:19 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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