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Five Myths about Same Sex Marriage
Townhall.com ^ | March 9, 2010 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 03/09/2010 12:18:39 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: jessduntno
Well, if that were a question I wanted to ask, perhaps. But I was making a statement about what the optimum situation for children is...that is my opinion. People should be grown ups and realize they need to take care of their kids no matter what, of course. But I was simply making a statement about what is FAR AND AWAY the best situation...don’t see why we need to stop stating that...I don’t think “single parenting” is too hot either, personally. Sorry.
Single parenting is awful. Worse than homosexuals from my experience.

Again the problem is that these days conservatism has stopped offering real solutions to social problems. Throwing fits at homos because they parent better than single parents and worse than a traditional family begs the real question "What can we do as a society to make families more stable and raise children right?".

21 posted on 03/09/2010 12:50:55 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: Kaslin

“Indeed, legally creating a union does not enable two men or two women to become “one flesh,” nor does a legal ceremony give the union sanctity.”

Thought this was the most convincing statement made. The concept of “one flesh” is refering to children from marriage. It is probably the most enriching phenomena associated with marriage - that a loving couple joins together to make “one flesh”. I am always struck by the beauty, intelligence, joy and love everytime I look upon my son. My wife and I will exchange glances and we are both thinking the same thing, how grateful this gift of One Flesh. I am sorry that some are unable to reach this place. There is only one path to this place and it is marriage between a man and a woman. The writer is correct, all else is imitation or counterfit. Not trying to be mean and non-inclusive, just recognizing the obvious that one flesh is the union of a man and a woman.


22 posted on 03/09/2010 12:51:12 PM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
It’s an insurance scam.

That's the crux of the matter. Cheap way to get your lover's AIDS medication paid for by someone else.

23 posted on 03/09/2010 12:52:26 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (I miss having a First LADY.)
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To: Kaslin

First myth - that it’s “Marriage”.

Calling it “marriage” doesn’t make it marriage any more than calling a dog’s tail a “leg” makes it a leg.


24 posted on 03/09/2010 12:53:17 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
Thought this was the most convincing statement made. The concept of “one flesh” is refering to children from marriage. It is probably the most enriching phenomena associated with marriage - that a loving couple joins together to make “one flesh”. I am always struck by the beauty, intelligence, joy and love everytime I look upon my son. My wife and I will exchange glances and we are both thinking the same thing, how grateful this gift of One Flesh. I am sorry that some are unable to reach this place. There is only one path to this place and it is marriage between a man and a woman. The writer is correct, all else is imitation or counterfit. Not trying to be mean and non-inclusive, just recognizing the obvious that one flesh is the union of a man and a woman.
Again, this begs the question. What do you do with children that *don't* come from "one flesh" families?
25 posted on 03/09/2010 12:55:00 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Exactly, they already have the SAME MARRIAGE rights as anyone else.

And also, heterosexuals (ie normal people) have limits on who they can marry. They can’t marry their brother or sister, they can’t marry a parent, they can’t marry cousins, they can’t marry people already married, they can’t marry anyone who doesn’t want to marry them, they can’t marry more than one person at a time, they cannot marry animals, or inanimate objects.

Plenty of restrictions normal people have to put up with.


26 posted on 03/09/2010 12:55:49 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I’d rather go the other extreme — more insurance freedom. We shouldn’t be coerced into paying for someone else’s alchohol abuse, drug abuse, etc. And yes, we should be allowed to opt out of AIDS coverage. If it’s due to a blood transfusion — that would be a major lawsuit anyway.


27 posted on 03/09/2010 12:56:14 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (ONLINE TAX REVOLT 150,000 AND GROWING. http://www.onlinetaxrevolt.com)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

thanks.

Will check it out.


28 posted on 03/09/2010 12:56:19 PM PST by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Secret Agent Man

And I forgot, normal people can’t marry another person if they are not of legal age.


29 posted on 03/09/2010 12:56:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: In veno, veritas

There has never been a “right” to marry; historically, marriage was intended to be an obligation undertaken by a couple prior to engaging in behavior which could reasonably be expected to yield children.

Hasn’t always worked out that way, any more than any other obligation, but that doesn’t transform it into a “right”.


30 posted on 03/09/2010 12:57:04 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ketsu

Again, this begs the question. What do you do with children that *don’t* come from “one flesh” families?

Love them.


31 posted on 03/09/2010 12:58:50 PM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: ketsu; bamahead; wagglebee; little jeremiah
The real question should be "should we allow incompetent or unwilling people to be parents?"

*Allow?!?! And just who gets to decide that? YOU? The government?

The real question is, "What are YOU doing on FR supporting gay marriage and nanny-statism?"

32 posted on 03/09/2010 12:59:56 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ketsu; equalitybeforethelaw

All children are a result of the *one flesh* union between a man and a woman. The fact that they’re no longer living with the parents who brought them into this world is totally irrelevant.


33 posted on 03/09/2010 1:03:56 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ketsu

Best for kids, bottom line is a stable mom and dad, I agree. Single parenting can be awful. It’s hard. But - I’ve had way too much exposure to the effects of homosexuals raising kids, and they’re better off with a stable straight single parent.


34 posted on 03/09/2010 1:03:57 PM PST by greatplains
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To: Secret Agent Man
Plenty of restrictions normal people have to put up with.

And it's just so unfaaaaaair!

/leftist

35 posted on 03/09/2010 1:04:24 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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Thanks, mm!!

This article and discussion covers a lot of ground. Will get back to the discussion in a bit.

36 posted on 03/09/2010 1:05:27 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Well, besides the destruction of the family and Christianity, the other defining aspect of all leftist policies is that the irresponsible have their consequences paid for by the responsible, by force, and without the permission of the responsible.


37 posted on 03/09/2010 1:08:39 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ketsu
The real question you should be asking is, which is better, a single parent home or a gay one?

No. That isn't the real question. Society should NOT give children to people with deviant behaviour and mental issues..

38 posted on 03/09/2010 1:11:58 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: ketsu
begs the real question "What can we do as a society to make families more stable and raise children right?".

Stop claiming that abnormal behaviour is acceptable.

39 posted on 03/09/2010 1:14:31 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Kaslin

Excellent essay; I’m saving it in my “position papers” file!


40 posted on 03/09/2010 1:15:44 PM PST by Persevero ("Our culture is far better than a retarded Islamic culture." -Geert Wilders)
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