[ketsu]

Well, if that were a question I wanted to ask, perhaps. But I was making a statement about what the optimum situation for children is...that is my opinion. People should be grown ups and realize they need to take care of their kids no matter what, of course. But I was simply making a statement about what is FAR AND AWAY the best situation...don’t see why we need to stop stating that...I don’t think “single parenting” is too hot either, personally. Sorry.

Single parenting is awful. Worse than homosexuals from my experience.

Again the problem is that these days conservatism has stopped offering real solutions to social problems. Throwing fits at homos because they parent better than single parents and worse than a traditional family begs the real question "What can we do as a society to make families more stable and raise children right?".

[greatplains]

Best for kids, bottom line is a stable mom and dad, I agree. Single parenting can be awful. It’s hard. But - I’ve had way too much exposure to the effects of homosexuals raising kids, and they’re better off with a stable straight single parent.

[DJ MacWoW]

begs the real question "What can we do as a society to make families more stable and raise children right?".

Stop claiming that abnormal behaviour is acceptable.

[jessduntno]

“What can we do as a society to make families more stable and raise children right?”.

Do what my parents did...what I did...what my three married sons did...work it out...go to Church...play three sports and study hard...that stuff.

[metmom]

Single parenting is awful. Worse than homosexuals from my experience.

What a slap in the face to ALL the single parent families out there and all the single parent FReepers on this forum.

Nice broad brush you paint them with. That includes those who are divorced against their will, whose spouses up and leave and abandon the family, those whose spouses are sick or incapacitated in some way and essentially can't help with the child rearing, soldiers who are out on duty and stationed overseas so the spouse is raising the children alone, and those whose spouses have DIED.

This boy is part of a single parent family now.

[Albion Wilde]

Single parenting is awful. Worse than homosexuals from my experience.

Your experience does not a reliable statistic make.

Every time we have a gay marriage thread to discuss social policy, we have a few posters who claim that because they know someone who is gay and whom they like, gay marriage should be legal. This is not an appropriate way to determine policy for the whole of society, particularly those children who are harmed by being buffeted about or abused in gay relationships.

If you have not looked at the big picture, it really doesn't matter how well your gay poster boys are doing in their situation. They know they are on display as pioneers, and are careful of what they do. But as soon as society "normalizes" gay "marriage" and "parenting" for everyone, the barriers will come crashing down.

As two examples, take a look at the case of Frank Lombard, who got cocky living in a gay commune and having a gayness-related official position at Duke University, and then purposely adopted a boy and not only began abusing him as an infant, but also pimping him out online at age 5. Did I mention that Lombard lived in a committed relationship with a gay partner, and was also a youth leader in his local Episcopal church? And how about the Jesse Dirkhisking case, in which Jesse's parents were politically correct enough to let him hang out with gay "family friends" -- and he ended up torture-raped to death.

Political correctness demands that homosexual child abuse be viewd no differently than heterosexual child abuse. That is pure crap. If there can be an additional measure of "hate" crimes because a person's "gay identity" is assaulted, there can certainly be an additional measure of assault against a child's identity when there is an assault by a homosexual.

Homosexual "parenting" is by its very nature a form of child abuse. It messes with a child's most basic, "needs-no-explanation" self-image -- as a being who was created through natural means by a man and a woman as an act not only of love, but of lifelong relationship to parents, even if those parents are less than ideal. They are, and will always be, the biological parents, and they pass along a measure of natural identity that all the laws in the world can never change.

The marriage of a man and a woman is so basic and natural that it pre-dated America, the Supreme Court, and a host of recent secular rationales such as gay civil rights theory or the sham of "gay identity". And it will outlast them, as well.