Posted on 03/08/2010 9:26:18 AM PST by Neil E. Wright
A taste of the RNC logic:
National Republican Party fundraisers aren't putting much stock in Joe Walsh's campaign to unseat incumbent Democratic U.S. Rep. Melissa Bean in the suburban 8th District [Illinois], a spokesman said Thursday.
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"We're really focused on the seats where we see the clearest paths to victory," [National Republican Congressional Committee spokesman Tom] Erickson said. "It's no secret these are the most competitive (races)."
The RNC will find a reason at every turn to favor their candidate over a Tea-Party candidate. To whom should they be listening - their entrenched bureaucracy or the voters? We know what the intra-WDC folks say - and it is reproduced, in part, below. Let's look at the voters:
Illinois - 503 of 503 Precincts Reporting - 100%
| Name | Party | Votes | Vote % |
| Walsh, Joe | GOP | 16,109 | 34% |
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| Beveridge, Dirk | GOP | 11,638 | 25% |
| Rodriguez, Maria | GOP | 9,763 | 21% |
| Geissler, Christopher | GOP | 4,256 | 9% |
| Dawson, John | GOP | 3,909 | 8% |
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| Jacobs, Gregory | GOP | 1,441 | 3% |
And, now, let's read how the RNC will create their own demise:
National Republican Party fundraisers aren't putting much stock in Joe Walsh's campaign to unseat incumbent Democratic U.S. Rep. Melissa Bean in the suburban 8th District [Illinois], a spokesman said Thursday.
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"We're really focused on the seats where we see the clearest paths to victory," [National Republican Congressional Committee spokesman Tom] Erickson said. "It's no secret these are the most competitive (races)."
The Walsh-vs.-Bean matchup doesn't make the cut. Walsh wasn't the GOP group's choice to face the three-term incumbent, Erickson said.
"In the primary, we had really liked Dirk Beveridge or Maria Rodriguez," Erickson said, referring to two of the five candidates Walsh defeated Feb. 2. "Those are the two candidates who we thought really had the potential to make this a very competitive race."
The Walsh camp isn't concerned about Erickson's ranking of the state's races, campaign spokeswoman Whitney Schlosser said.
"Joe Walsh is not part of the establishment and, unfortunately, some elements of the GOP establishment are still a bit tone deaf when it comes to independent, conservative reform candidates," Schlosser said in an e-mail. "It helps explain why they didn't see Walsh's primary victory coming."
A nine-point thumping in a crowded field isn't good enough for the RNC.
The fallacy of their logic is that they are telling us - "Yes, this race, but, no, not this candidate." The dem incumbent in Illinois 8 either is or is not vulnerable. The opposition candidate rarely makes her vulnerable - she does it herself. The opposition candidate merely exposes those vulnerabilities, exacerbates them, and makes them winning issues. He or she then runs on their own merits to bring home the electoral victory.
So we are reminded by the RNC: Dede Scozafavva was good enough; Joe Walsh - who beat their favored candidate fair and square - is not.
We conservatives do not want a 3d party, but you all in the RNC are making it more and more difficult to try to work out our differences.
It is not the RNC — if you people cannot see the difference then do some homework.
The National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) — get that! NRCC not RNC is involved in Congressional races. They are concentrating on seats they feel they can win and this is not one of them. Doesn’t make any difference who the person is that won.
There is not enough money to go around so you concentrate first on taking back seats in Red States, then move to ones who only went Blue for Obama, and last up are candidates from solid blue states.
The comments are ludicrous at best about the RNC which does not get involved in most Congressional races unless asked by the NRCC.
That said — rely on the grassroots. If you want this guy to win, open your wallets, go volunteer, and help him with a grassroots effort. That’s how you win elections not expecting the national people to come in and save the day.
Get off the dime and go to work for this person — he needs boots on the ground and all of you to open up your wallets and go back to the old fashioned way of campaigning. I will be more then happy to give some ‘free’ advise on how he can do this campaign on a frugal basis.
Freep Mail me if you want some ‘free advise’ on ways to cut costs. It has worked with other candidates who are facing a race and using the grassroots with little money. Takes a lot of effort, but it can be done.
“You’re assuming that logic prevails at this site?”
One man’s logic is another man’s...well, let’s say “another man’s failure to get it.”
“The RNC is a PROGRESSIVE organization!”
It’s the party of Theodore Roosevelt.
And the guy who said, ““I count myself as a conservative Republican, yet I view it to a large degree in the Theodore Roosevelt mold.” That was John McCain if the quote is unfamiliar.
Teddy attempted to refashion the Republican Party in the progressive image until 1912. Then, he gave up and formally formed the Progressive Party, which was colloquially known as the Bull Moose Party.
Just send money to conservitaves and let the rnc support the rinos..If this guy passes we support him...hell the tea party support Scott Brown.. he is not a real cosertive we will see if he is a rino..everybody cannot be 100%
We don’t want or need a Third Party and I’m not going to vote “Tea Party”.
Why is "Tea-Party" capitalized, as if it is an organization of some kind rather than a catchy nickname for an effective protest movement from last year? Has the name already been trademarked by ambitious political whores?
There would be no THIRD PARTY! There is only one party now! We need a SECOND PARTY! If the RNC doesn’t shape up and listen the Conservatives, it deserves to go off the cliff. Enough is enough. It is time for a good Conservative party to rise from the ashes! Go Tea Party Movement!
“It is not the RNC — if you people cannot see the difference then do some homework.”
Nobody said it was.
“Doesn’t make any difference who the person is that won.”
That’s the problem. It does matter.
“There is not enough money to go around so you concentrate first on”
Again, not the issue here. The problem is that what support is forthcoming is going to the wrong candidate.
“The comments are ludicrous at best about the RNC”
Actually, they’re not, and you are being insulting with no justification whatsoever. People commented on the RNC, but no one said anything that wasn’t factual.
“That said — rely on the grassroots.”
Good advice, but doesn’t change the fact that the pubbies are supporting a RINO over a conservative — yet again.
“I will be more then happy to give some ‘free’ advise on how he can do this campaign on a frugal basis.”
Advice.
Joe Walsh? Great gutar player.
“Just send money to conservitaves and let the rnc support the rinos”
Good advice.
“..the tea party support Scott Brown.. he is not a real cosertive”
Ironically, decent people are often slowest to see the perfidy that lurks in a scumbag’s heart.
I dont much care what the RNC does. If I see someone I wish to contribute to, I will send them my donation that used to go to the RNC.
Right now I throw their letters in the trash and hang up the phone when they call. Still they dont get the message, Screw em.
>We do not want or need a third party and I’m not going to vote Tea Party!<
Then you are part of the problem! See my post 28.
We conservatives do not want a 3d party,
A 3rd Party, a 4th Party, ... is the only way to force the national debate into the deeper questions of personal responsibility, which is freedom, versus government dependence. Big money parties are only incubators for corruption and complicity. Given of course that the outsiders can break the media stranglehold and enter the debate at all.
We either trust the individual to understand the dignity of freedom and responsibility, or let the political class (political parties) have their way with us.
There is a long long way to go to turn it around, if ever. Complicity, Joseph Conrad wrote a novel about that (Victory).
Who is still giving money to the RNC? Don’t think they have much to give. Donations to the RNC are down over 50% since Steele took over.
OK folks... Don’t get too spastic.
Bean won this district in 2008 by 60% to 40%, and by 51% to 44%.
The RNC probably sees assets better used elsewhere. It’s up to US to Support the Tea Party candidates, in the end. Not the RNC.
I think the rnc did not support Scott Brown...or waited til the end and it looked like a good bet....
Scott Brown was down 30 points at one time..
The Rnc called me a couple of days ago...I told them I chose who gets my money..I do not want my money going to McCain
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