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Don't shoot the messenger -- Rasmussen polls often give Democrats heartburn.
1 posted on 03/08/2010 8:08:29 AM PST by reaganaut1
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IOW,half those polled don’t know that state worker pensions are bankrupting their state.


2 posted on 03/08/2010 8:11:44 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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Don’t shoot the messenger — Rasmussen polls often give Democrats heartburn.


This poll gives >me< heartburn.


3 posted on 03/08/2010 8:11:56 AM PST by unkus
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What a crock of s*()! We spend way too much money on public education.


4 posted on 03/08/2010 8:14:18 AM PST by lesko
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Good little drones, buying all the lies.


5 posted on 03/08/2010 8:14:22 AM PST by Tax-chick (Aw, CUSSWORDS!!!)
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We spend plenty on public education, but much of it is wasted in paying for all the administrators. A friend of mine who teaches forensic accounting looked at our local school budget and estimated that at last 40% of the budget went to administrative costs.


6 posted on 03/08/2010 8:14:55 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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55% of people are idiots on pubilc education spending. Clearly.

Much of this money goes to teachers unions and pension setups that are bankrupting the states. Not to mention have two vice principals in each school, a ton of administrative positions that suck resources away and add to pension burdens. Paid for continuing education junkets.


7 posted on 03/08/2010 8:15:00 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Does anyone know what percentage we spend on education vs. GDP? Just wondering if we can use that.


8 posted on 03/08/2010 8:15:59 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction (LOLcat sez: "ObamaCare: Do Not Want!")
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When I was working on my Masters in Education in 2002, some of the students were trying to do a thesis that supported their hypothesis that there was a correlation between educational spending and student achievement. They were unable to find any studies that supported it. Some of the poorest schools in the country had the best achievement and some of the richest had the lowest achievement. The biggest factor was the attitude and involvement of the parents.

The main factor that was tied to money was the security of the school. Students who were worried about getting mugged in the hallways tended to do worse on achievement tests.

9 posted on 03/08/2010 8:16:21 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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ping for later


10 posted on 03/08/2010 8:18:13 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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Here is a clue for the 55% who think the government should spend more on education.

No matter HOW MUCH money you give the government schools, it will NEVER, EVER be enough!

Government schools are required by law to provide a lowest-common-denominator education, replete with political correctness, anti-americanism, anti-Christ indoctrination.

They cannot be repaired.

They must be abandoned.

An allegory that comes to mind is the Captain of the Titanic asking for more money to buy bigger pumps to pump the water out of the ship faster so it won’t sink.

American “Public Education” is a sinking ship, it cannot be salvaged. Leave it to the fishes and barnacles.

American “Public Education”, as it exists today in its morubund condition, is better understood as The Bus Ministry of the State Church of Marxist Humanism.


11 posted on 03/08/2010 8:18:46 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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They need to ask the question a different way. Government K-12 schools cost, say $13,000 per pupil per year. With say 20 students per class, ask instead, we pay $260,000 to run one school classroom for one year. And that does not include full funding for retirement.

Would your church be willing to do it for less? Would you? I could make a comfortable living teaching four students at government rates.


12 posted on 03/08/2010 8:19:47 AM PST by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2010.)
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My answer would be both yes and no. We spend a fortune on public education, but it is not always money well spent. DC public schools are a prime example of this. We spend far too much (nationwide) on administrators and “luxuries” than we do on teachers, books and building repairs.


13 posted on 03/08/2010 8:20:07 AM PST by brothers4thID (http://scarlettsays.blogspot.com/)
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The comments are better than the stories:

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14 posted on 03/08/2010 8:21:06 AM PST by Elle Bee
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2/3rds of my property taxes go towards public school districts and I have no children. Hate to sound selfish about it but I get zero benefit from the involuntary ‘contribution’ and it being a mild form of socialism at that.


15 posted on 03/08/2010 8:21:37 AM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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That is because they have no understanding of where most of the money goes, like teachers unions and pension plans.


17 posted on 03/08/2010 8:27:18 AM PST by dforest
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Almost all the greatest minds in American history learned in one room school houses... and yet we now spend 10’s of thousands a year on kids education and they can't even read...

I don't think it's the money.

18 posted on 03/08/2010 8:27:43 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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The problem is the Government should not be involved in education we had a higher literacy rate when they were not.
Education is about 1 thing control of the people’s thought look where public education idea came from the Germans. It in only a little over 100 years old! We we get rid of public education and every other program the government doesn’t belong in we will be better off!


19 posted on 03/08/2010 8:27:56 AM PST by jroneil (2010 is all that matter now!)
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God help us! What we have today is NOT education like when I attended school - it is pure and simple PROPAGANDIZING.


23 posted on 03/08/2010 8:30:44 AM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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Most individuals are clueless about education spending. They have no idea about the bureaucratic monster inside public education. Public school compensation consumes about 85% to 90% of school budgets. Public school compensation overall is far above market compensation for education services. Private school compensation is far below public school compensation on just salary alone. Total compensation of public school employees dwarfs total compensation in private schools.

An increase in school funding will only increase the already bloated compensation. Union contracts decreases efficiency.

A serious sample would present reasonable choices. Do you want to increase your property taxes and other state taxes to ensure that teachers can retire at age 55 with 30 years of service with subsidized early retiree medical care? Do you want to pay more taxes to ensure that teachers can use a generous allotment of personal days to take vacations in the middle of an academic period? Do you want to pay more taxes so the total K-12 compensation still increases when your compensation decreases?


25 posted on 03/08/2010 8:31:35 AM PST by businessprofessor
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Hunh, and I've been saying that probs in education come from a lack of discipline, poorly educated teachers, no parental interest, too much administration, bureaucracy, and union involvement, and a curriculum that's dictated from the top down, rather than the bottom up.

And all we needed to do to fix things was throw more money at an already ridiculously bloated and overfunded program. Sign me up.

do i need a /sarc?

26 posted on 03/08/2010 8:31:51 AM PST by wbill
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