Posted on 03/08/2010 8:08:29 AM PST by reaganaut1
While government leaders attempt to tackle budget deficits that are ballooning to historic proportions, 55% of Americans say the government does not spend enough money on public education.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that just 20% think the government spends too much on public education, while another 21% say the amount it spends is about right.
Sixty-seven percent (67%) of Democrats and 55% of voters not affiliated with either party say the government does not spend enough, a view shared by just 42% of Republicans.
Among all voters, 45% believe it is more important for the government to aid low-income students than to help the best and brightest pupils, up four points from a survey last May. Twenty-six percent (26%) see helping the best and brightest students as more important. Twenty-nine percent (29%) more are not sure.
Most Democrats (63%) and a plurality (46%) of unaffiliated voters see aiding low-income students as the priority. Republicans are more narrowly divided: 41% say helping the best and brightest is more important, while 26% think the emphasis should be on low-income students.
Married voters are closely divided on the question, too.
Seventy-five percent (75%) of all voters say they have been following recent news reports about proposed cuts in public education funding due to state budget problems.
Last August, only 17% of Americans believed teachers should be asked to take furloughs or pay cuts to help deal with the budget crises that are facing many school systems nationwide.
President Obama has said U.S. children need to spend more time in school to make them more competitive with students from other countries, and 49% of Americans think the president is right. Thirty-seven percent (37%) disagree.
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Learning likely has **everything** to do with the parents since they do nearly 100% of the educating. ( Called “afterschooling”.) The school is merely sending home a curriculum for the parents and child to follow.
Really? Do we **really** know how much learning is actually happening in the institutional school? Do we really know how much the parents and the child, himself, is teaching and learning in the home?
If nearly everything a child learns is due to his parents or the child's own efforts in the home, maybe it would be better for academically successful children to merely stay at **home**. It could be the the institutional school is actually retarding his social and academic progress.
Also...If it is parents and the child who are doing 99.99% of the work at home, then only an **IDIOT** would expect government schools to help child from dysfunctional families. These kids likely need boarding school or KIPP schools.
And how many of those students who felt unsafe but had to be there because of truancy laws decided to make their schools look very bad the only way they can — do poorly on the oh-so-important achievement test?
God help us! What we have today is NOT education like when I attended school - it is pure and simple PROPAGANDIZING.
If every government school were permanently padlocked tomorrow, the same children who are educated today would be the same children who would be educated tomorrow!
Why? Because it is parents in the early years, and children as they grow older, who are doing 99.99% of the work IN THE HOME!
Most individuals are clueless about education spending. They have no idea about the bureaucratic monster inside public education. Public school compensation consumes about 85% to 90% of school budgets. Public school compensation overall is far above market compensation for education services. Private school compensation is far below public school compensation on just salary alone. Total compensation of public school employees dwarfs total compensation in private schools.
An increase in school funding will only increase the already bloated compensation. Union contracts decreases efficiency.
A serious sample would present reasonable choices. Do you want to increase your property taxes and other state taxes to ensure that teachers can retire at age 55 with 30 years of service with subsidized early retiree medical care? Do you want to pay more taxes to ensure that teachers can use a generous allotment of personal days to take vacations in the middle of an academic period? Do you want to pay more taxes so the total K-12 compensation still increases when your compensation decreases?
And all we needed to do to fix things was throw more money at an already ridiculously bloated and overfunded program. Sign me up.
do i need a /sarc?
I think that's rather well known (but we're not supposed to talk about it). There is no correlation between education funding, and educational outcome.
The money benefits employees, but has no effect on students. So, why do schools exist? To benefit employees? Or students?
(The answer is: to benefit employees.)
Well, one difference is the "official" illiteracy rate - back then everybody know that 50% of the population couldn't read and write - now it's politically incorrect to admit that, so the same people all have government jobs. :)
55% of those polled are morons?
My son who will be 40 in July reports that he and his friends sabotaged many a standardized government school test.
Should really read
“Cash strapped states delay paying refunds to ever-increasing unemployed Cash-strapped citizens”
It’s not true all over the USA but I familiar with many counties where teachers are way overpaid when the 9 month work year, pensions, bennies are factored in. They are greedy effin thieves who get their way due to the aura of sacrifice and “doing it for the children”
Repeat-— Not all teachers have this racket going
Out here in CA, we've fixed all of that with the lottery....(extreme sarcasm)
Results from people who don’t know a thing about the NUMBERS!!!
What a load of BS.How much more of the municipal budget is enough?50 percent,60,70,How much.It seems the more we spend on education the more uneducated kids get.
If these educators would stick to the 3 R’s instead of all of the feel good socialization classes our kids would be way ahead of where they are now.
55% of those polled say government is not spending enough of other people’s money on education.
Remember the Bush/Kennedy 2001 ‘No Child Left Behind’ for us taxpayer chumps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Child_Left_Behind_Act
‘Since enactment, Congress increased federal funding of education, from $42.2 billion in 2001 to $54.4 billion in 2007. No Child Left Behind received a 40.4% increase from $17.4 billion in 2001 to $24.4 billion. The funding for reading quadrupled from $286 million in 2001 to $1.2 billion’.
There was no way a lottery in North Carolina would "sell" unless it was labeled the NORTH CAROLINA EDUCATION LOTTERY
Just more government lies, and they slowly add more numbers to each game, more and more scam....but those 55% this thread is about...probably the same dumb morons that buy lottery tickets...
I think you’re on to something there...
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