Posted on 03/07/2010 12:28:44 PM PST by Kaslin
A Christian pundit, Dawn Eden, thinks my daughter Hannah Giles and her partner James O’Keefe should not have used Saul Alinsky’s deceptive tactics against ACORN because Saul was “evil,” his methods sneaky, and he dedicated his book, Rules for Radicals, to Lucifer.
In addition, Eden took a swipe at Lila Rose, Planned Parenthood’s main pain in the butt, for being deceptive in her undercover vids which exposed Planned Parenthood’s illegal activity. Oh, and I almost forgot: Dawn also busted on Hannah for being un-Christlike for wearing a miniskirt and dressing like a hooker. Sounds a little catty to me—and a wee bit like Dana Carvey’s Church Lady—but I digress.
First off, Ms. Eden, if you ever drum up the nerve to expose a scandalous multimillion dollar Obama-backed, taxpayer-funded organization for doing illegal crap and then undergo death threats (versus sitting on the sidelines and simply critiquing those who have the cojones to do so) you will find that the lawbreakers are rather reticent in telling journalists, who are intent on exposing and destroying their world, exactly how they’re breaking the law. Yeah, I know. It’s weird, eh?
You’d think that nefarious organizations would just spill their guts, throw up their hands, give up their hard drives, refrain from dumping tens of thousands of documents in a dumpster, and just cooperate to the fullest extent with the FBI and the DOJ, but alas, they don’t because they’re criminals, and criminals, generally speaking, aren’t known for truthfulness, contrition and full disclosure with cops.
Therefore, most of the time when journalists, Christian or not, want to get the 411 on a reprehensible group, they usually have to fly under the radar, you know, by being misleading, going stealth, acting like serpents, slithering in and getting the apple in front of the culprit and seeing if they’ll take the bait. Deception is a given in the truth seeker’s toolbox when it comes to dealing with slippery critters who won’t easily spill the beans. It’s called hunting. Haven’t you ever watched a Jason Bourne movie, seen Barney Fife in action, or read Joshua or Judges? Geez, Dawn. Come to speed, why don’t cha?
For frail Dawn, the deceptive tactics Giles, O’Keefe and Rose employed in exposing crappy cabals like ACORN and Planned Parenthood present a pious conundrum because she sees deceit, in all forms, as evil; according to her read of the Bible, sweet Jesus would never give the thumbs-up to a believer to participate in that kind of devilish activity.
No, for Dawn, we must pray, be more “mature,” take the high road, wait a million years, come through the front door with a press pass around our neck, and tell the twisted that the USA and Jesus would really appreciate it if ACORN and Planned Parenthood would confess their sins, close down their operations, and become a Ben & Jerry’s.
Here’s my take on whether or not Jesus and the Bible are cool with deceit for righteous purposes. First off, when I’m talking about Jesus, I’m talking about the one in the Bible who methodically made a whip and beat the religious hucksters out of the temple (that’s not very Christlike, eh Dawn?), purposely picked fights with sanctimonious toads and political pukes, and instructed his disciples to be “shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves” (Mt. 10:16). Or, as my King Doug Contra Mundus Translation interprets the original Greek text, “be as clever as the Devil.” Yep, good old Jesus said it’s okay to imitate the serpent in regard to cleverness; just be righteous in spirit and desired goals.
From what I know from my own serious Christian kid and O’Keefe (as well as Rose, via several interviews with her), their motivations were pure in that they wanted to sink these two sucky organizations—organizations, mind you, that are on tape aiding and abetting underage prostitution, home loans for multiple whorehouses, money laundering, tax fraud, millions of abortions, and not just any old abortions but abortions for underage girls (without their parents’ knowledge or consent) who have been the victims of statutory rape.
The reason I believe Jesus wouldn’t give a flip about these three heroes’ mad methods but would instead applaud their efforts is because the Scripture doesn’t condemn:
• Rahab, a real whore, for her sleight of hand with the Canaanites • Gideon’s pretense with his small army • Abraham’s lie regarding his wife • King David’s feigned madness before King Achish.
Real life is war, sweetie pie, and I hate to burst your smug balloon, my dear Dawn, but sometimes playing dirty for noble reasons is the right thing to do.
With Eden’s edict banning deception, it follows that Christian cops couldn’t do their fabulous undercover work; Christian soldiers couldn’t wear deceptive camo or take on local dress in order to whack the Taliban; Christian CIA ops would have to wear dove and fish T-Shirts instead of their Simon Templar garb; and the amazing Christians who lied to the murderous Nazis would all be uniformly condemned for fibbing about the whereabouts of precious Jews they were hiding.
Lastly, Dawn, at the end of the day, I believe Hannah, James and Lila will get mad applause in heaven as they are here on earth for exposing ACORN and Planned Parenthood’s hellish practices. I know, as a Christian, I prefer their ways of doing things to your way of not doing them. Amen.
Hannah? Brave young lady.
There you go!
OK, and Doug?
If only he had not abandoned his religion and done something useful with his life, instead of exploiting human resentment to satisfy his own ego.
Maybe he did some good in his life, but I can't see it.
We could debate their purpose forever, and they even may not fully be aware of it. But who can deny the tremendous impact these two people have had made by becoming activists in their young lives.
I figure he brought his kid up right. The article seems well written and I agree with his pov but I don’t know much about him otherwise.
Why the questions?
So what exactly IS your point? Since Jesus defines what is right and wrong, who is in a position to tell Him otherwise?
If only he had not abandoned his religion and done something useful with his life, instead of exploiting human resentment to satisfy his own ego.
Maybe he did some good in his life, but I can't see it.
Curious if you had a beef with Christianity.
Problems come when making projections from what we know to what we don’t.
It matters not what their motives were, and I’m sure it was more for future money than anything else, God will use the situation for his purpose. Bottom line.
Does that mean we shouldn’t deceive fish by hiding a hook inside a worm? Or worse yet, using plastic bait?
How about police stings? Should we outlaw them?
Do what?
You enjoy dropping hints about a subject and leaving everyone guessing what the heck you’re talking about, don’t you?
“Curious if you had a beef with Christianity.”
Oh Lord NO! I do have a beef with morons, no matter where they place their faith.
The Tea Party is all about race.
There is no need to tell lies about the left.
But it's OK for the Left to tell lies about the Right. What's that saying, 'Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth'?
And CNN just the other day had a chyron that said, 'Is right-wing extremism on the rise?'
This, after the recent spate of attacks by LEFT-WING wackos.
I know that several, if not all, of the CNN anchors are Leftists, but I never thought that CNN itself would fabricate the news, and imply a reality that's just not true.
Amen. There are many that are always shouting that the Bible teaches that we should not judge. Those people miss all the verses about God’s righteous Judgment. There is more than one verse that teaches us TO JUDGE. Nobody ever quotes those. For instance, judge righteously. Who are we to judge if not others (and ourselves)
You are why I stated , some of you would not get it.
Dawn is making a simple mistake—confusing investigation with evangelism, acting with lying. Thou shalt not condemn undercover cops ... or citizens.
Why that’s the best way to troll. Everybody has to guess what I mean and reason around all the possibilities. I learn from old masters here.
(OK, /humor)
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