Posted on 03/06/2010 5:30:33 AM PST by bestintxas
Another Alinsky tactic...keep people in a constant state of ‘unbalanced’ ness...
Yep, go ahead and piss off even more people, Mr. President Zero. The more the better.
I suspect the numbers are significant and if known and publicized would make many on the unemployment rolls very unhappy. Maybe enough to mitigate any votes he gains.
So will Brownback. I was a Senate watcher when S.2611 was active, and besides being a bill cosponsor, his voting pattern indicated being in the McCain/Graham camp. Cornyn too, but he's more slippery.
My ultimate take is that the issue of Congress finding a way to get the heat and taint off illegal immigrants isn't a matter of "if," rather, it's a matter of "when."
Defeating the next amnesty push will require several Dims. I know Tester has voted against it, and Byrd. Do you recall other Dims who opposed amnesty in 2006 or 2007? What did Landrieu and the Arkansas Dims do?
The Senate vote was 62-36 for passage. "The usual suspects," for the most part, adding in Bennett, Brownback, Gregg (a NWO dude), Lugar, and McConnell. Landrieu was in the AYE column too. The only DEMs against were Byrd, Dorgan, Nelson of Nebraska, and Stabenow.
Some sort of immigration amnesty is inevitable. Congress (actually, the government as a whole, but in this case it'll be Congress) is expert at making profound errors, then compounding them.
But in 2007, it was 53 - 46 against. The House defeated amnesty in 2006, and the Senate defeated it in 2007. Looking at that 2007 Senate vote, there are many questions about how some of them would vote this year, if it comes to a vote again.
Bayh a Nay, and Lugar a Yes in 2007. Lugar is a RINO on par with McCain and Graham, but he mostly seems to fly under the RINO radar.
Another interesting change: Trent Lott of Mississippi voted Yes in 2007. He’s gone, so that should be a changed vote.
I followed the Senate pretty close for a year or two, and then got bored. Once you figure out it's largely a scripted charade, the thrill departs.
I take no joy from the inevitable collapse that the government has perpetrated, but IMO, it's a waste of time and energy to communicate or attempt to reason with it. Once a year, I go vote. If there is a candidate that I support, they get my vote.
He wants to ram everything threw before we take back the House in November?
Miserabile dictu..., but your analyses are probably the best explanation of what they’re really thinking.
Besides playing perpetual “whack a mole,” I’m really tired of commentators giving this gang a pass with statements like “He just doesn’t get it!” and “He’s out of touch with the American prople,” and “Doesn’t he know the way to create jobs is to lower taxes?” As if we’re dealing with Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dum politics.
He is doing everything BUT concentrating on the deficit and lack of jobs in this country.
To take the logic one step farther...
By bringing up immigration reform/amnesty, the only thing more unpopular than HCR, he could possibly swing a few votes by promising to let them vote against it... in exchange for a yea vote on healthcare. How’s that for a bribe? Doesn’t cost anything either, and no paper trail.
Reid was losing throughout the debate in 2007, and then tried the so-called "Clay Pigeon" approach to getting it passed, and then that fell apart on him. The votes were not in the Senate to pass amnesty in 2007, and several Dims moved to the Nay side to deflect some of the heat from their home states.
How some of those Dims would vote in 2010 is a big question.
“Immigrants and their advocates — promised by then-candidate Obama that he would tackle the issue in his first year as president — have been growing frustrated by the inaction.”
Oh my, they are FRUSTRATED....how sad.
“Reid was losing throughout the debate in 2007, and then tried the so-called “Clay Pigeon” approach to getting it passed, and then that fell apart on him.”
They are piecemealing several immigration items to gain amnesty already. One Harry Reid bill just signed in yesterday.
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This one was ‘bipartisan’ and slipped by us, just signed by Obama. This is to buy off Harry Reid’s Las Vegas interests and has bad implications all the way around.... another bureaucracy, another ‘czar’ and millions in tax dollars to promote more illegal alien visa overstays.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464207/posts?page=1#1
They won’t have to worry about opposition.
IF they get amnesty, they can freely flip the bird to any true American that would object.
Yes, that’s a big IF. But they are going to put all the chips on that number.
I think you are absolutely correct.
They have merged the two major issues in order to dilute opposition and enable reps to hide behind either issue.
It also coincides with the census. Don’t think they won’t figure out a way to use the census to register those new voters.
That is my worst fear.
And I think that it is very likely.
“Is there any data as to how much the unemployment numbers would be reduced if the feds would do their job and deport all illegal aliens??
I suspect the numbers are significant and if known and publicized would make many on the unemployment rolls very unhappy. Maybe enough to mitigate any votes he gains.”
Mkaes sense to me but remeber the last GOP Prez said “These are jobs that Americans won’t do” Which is hogwash.
If we stop the welfare checks, recipiets would gladly choose to pick up rash on the highway rather than starve to death.
Never, never a Bush again. I don’t care if Jeb is the most conservative of the lot.
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