Posted on 03/05/2010 12:59:51 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice
"One word. Two different worlds...
No wonder so little genuine communicationor progressoccurs in education
I had been writing about education for more than 25 years when I finally realized the divide, the scam, the silent sophistry, call it what you will, that renders so many discussions about education close to pointless.
When most people say the word education, they mean something very specific, and almost everyone knows exactly what it is: reading, writing, arithmetic, geography, to be followed by history, science, literature, and the arts.
Now, if everyone in the discussion has this meaning in mind, they can make progress.
Unfortunately, the people who control the public schools and shape most of the debate have another meaning in their minds, and they know exactly what it is: social engineering, indoctrination, political correctness, and left-wing politics...."
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Marxism is our nation’s **most** serious threat. Schools ( especially government K-12 schools) are the Marxist’s **most** powerful and dangerous weapon.
Government schools **ARE** socialism!!! Socialism can NOT be reformed. It must be abolished!
Yet...I am appalled at how many conservatives fail to understand this.
The keyword for the FREE REPUBLIC HOMESCHOOLERS FORUM is frhf.
One thing for sure, it’s not just stuffing kids heads full of facts by teaching for the test.
Education is also learning how to apply what you’ve learned and the public schools fall woefully short in that area.
Conservatives are learning faster than the government and public schools systems want them to. Let’s just hope they learn fast enough and get involved with their schools and demand the education you speak of. When parents see what the schools are doing to their children they should be very worried for their children. All parents should check the High Schools in their area. Find out what the graduation rate is and look at the final exams. Are the exams relavent to today? Watch the books the kids are issued, page through them. Are they teaching true history that they were taught or is it made up history? Are the kids learning the true history of the United States? If not, why not?
Keep in mind,
the socialists see homeschoolers as
as big of a threat as we see the socialists.
And right now, they have the guns of government to back them.
Education in a Christian homeschool should primarily focus on the fear and knowledge of God. Get that down, and you have the basis for all other learning.
Reading has been our #1 priority following Christian doctrine.
Government schools ****ARE***** SOCIALISM!!!! Socialism can not be reformed!
Getting involved with NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT fix any government school!!!
Simply by attending children learn that government has the power to take money from their neighbor to pay for a service that their parents want tuition-free. This is an object lesson in taking their neighbor's money that goes on every day for 13 or more years! And...Their teachers teach them that it is their **RIGHT**!
Do this for day after day and year after year, and you will soon have an adult who worships government as a god that can give them things. Well? Gee! If government can give them tuition-free schooling, why not lots of other free stuff?
The following is from a post I just made earlier today. It applies here as well:
Government schools **are** the very definition of socialism. They have always been the very definition of socialism. Socialism can not be fixed.
That we have government schools at all is because the Utopian progressives of the 1800s lobbied for them. The Utopian progressives have **always** controlled teacher training and curriculum development. It continued in the late 1800s and early 1900s with Mann and Dewey. The gradual push has always been toward more and more atheistic secularism, a more and more permissive and liberal worldview, and, now, outright Marxism.
Simply by attending socialist-model, single-payer,government schools, children have learned ( from the mid-1800s onward) that government has the power to take money from their neighbor to pay for a socialist service that their parents want for tuition-free. And...Their teachers teach them that it is a **right**! Well...If the government can give tuition-free schooling, why not a thousand other wants and needs?
Within one to three generations ( my parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents) we had:
**the IRS
** the direct election of Senators
** the federal reserve
** Unions
** feminist movement
** One World fantasies in the form of the failed League of Nations, followed by the abominable U.N.
** FDR and his New Deal for four terms
** Lyndon Johnson's Great Society
** the abolishment of the gold standard
** and thousands of socialist programs and agencies
Government schools teach children to look to government as GOD. They have always pushed in the direction of secular atheism. They **are** socialism and they can not be fixed.
Government schools must be abolished if we are to save this nation. I **seriously** mean it.
That is a good question.
2nd Peter 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge
The motto of our homeschool.
They created the public school system in an attempt to de-Catholicize Catholics.
Now that the progressives have taken controls of the reins of public education, it's a bit late to complain that the progressive are attempting to de-Christianize Christians.
That's how the Utopian progressives sold it to the bigoted Protestants. Oh those foolish, foolish Protestants!
Any government powerful enough to impose a watered down and generic Protestantism on Catholics is powerful enough to impose full-blown atheistic secularism them and make everyone pay for it.
The God who gave us life gave us liberty at the same time; the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them. (Jefferson - 1774)
Statesmen may plan and speculate for Liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone which can establish the principles upon which Freedom can securely stand. (John Adams - 1775)
The Sacred Rights of Mankind are not to be rummaged for among old parchments or musty records. They are written, as with a sunbeam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the Hand of the Divinity itself, and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power. (Alexander Hamilton)
Without God, there could be no American form of government, nor an American way of life. Recognition of the Supreme Being is the first and the most basic expression of Americanism. Thus the founding fathers saw it, and thus, with Gods help, it will continue to be. (Dwight Eisenhower)
The same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe, the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God. (John F. Kennedy - 1961 Inaugural)
it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly implore His protection and favor .(George Washington)
Now the virtue which had been infused into the Constitution and was to give it the stability and duration to which it was destined, was no other than those abstract principles proclaimed in the Declaration of Independencenamely, the self-evident truths of the unalienable rights of man the sovereignty of the people, always subordinate to a rule of right and wrong, and always responsible to the Supreme Ruler of the universe for the rightful exercise of that sovereign power. (John Quincy Adams, on the occasion of The Jubilee of the Constitution - 1839)
"Today, across our nation, we see consequences of decades of gross neglect and outright censorship of the Founders ideas from textbooks and from our public discourse. We have allowed counterfeit ideas to dominate the public square, and the Founders principles have been crowded out. Unwittingly, many teachers and other unknowing officials have participated in the agenda of an unelected mind-controlling elite whose tyrannical actions have robbed generations of Americans from reading or studying the ideas that made America free. Like termites, they have eroded our foundations as effectively as if they had burned the books. Yet, not once have they been willing to call it by its rightful namecensorship. Once, in America, stifling ideas about the Creator and Creator-endowed liberty was considered unthinkable. . . .
"The ideas of liberty must be passed on from generation to generation if liberty is to survive. These ideas, when they are allowed to be examined freely, will prevail, because their appeal is to reason and to the love for liberty that is deep in the human heart. John Adams warned: The people of America now have the best opportunity and the greatest trust in their hands, that Providence ever committed to so small a number if they betray their trust, their guilt will merit even greater punishment than other nations have suffered, and the indignation of Heaven.
The idea of God is the keystone of a perverted society. The true root of liberty, equality and culture is atheism. (Karl Marx)
Our thinking is enlightened in the degree in which we cease to depend upon belief in the supernatural. (John Dewey, father of progressive education and 1st President of American Humanist Society)
democracy is a human faith and movement, unencumbered by supernatural preconceptions. (John Childs, a protégé of John Dewey at Columbia)
the majority of our youth still hold the values of their parents, and if we do not alter this pattern, if we do not resocialize ourselves to accept change, our society may decay. (John Goodlad, 1971 Report to President, Schooling for the Future)
As in 1933, humanists still believe that traditional theism, especially a faith in the prayer-hearing God, who is assumed to love and care for persons, to hear and understand their prayers, and be able to do something about them, is an unproved and outmoded faith. (Humanist Manifesto II, 1973)
the most important factor moving us toward a secular society has been the educational factor. Our schools may not teach Johnny to read properly, but the fact that Johnny is in school until he is sixteen tends to lead toward elimination of religious superstition. (Paul Blanshard, The Humanist, March-April, 1976)
It [the Natl. Education Associations publication list] includes the delegitimizing of all authority save that of the state, the degradation of traditional morality and the encouragement of citizens in general and children in particular to despise the rules and customs that make their society a functional democracy. The NEA is drifting into exceedingly dangerous waters, and probably carrying more than a few teachers and pupils with it. (Chester E. Finn, Jr., Asst. Sec. Of Education & Prof. Of Education & Public Policy, Vanderbilt Univ., 1982)
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Now, my countrymen, if you have been taught doctrines which conflict with the great landmarks of the Declaration of Independence
let me entreat you to come back. Return to the fountains whose waters spring close to the blood of the Revolution. (Abraham Lincoln)
“They created the public school system in an attempt to de-Catholicize Catholics.”
Unfortunately, too many of the kids in our parish attend public schools, and Father Greg (our priest) has been talking about this for some time now. My husband and I have noticed that the most active families within the parish are those who either have kids in the Catholic school of our parish or have had kids there in the past. My husband says that Father needs to emphasize this and point out that these kids are the future of our parish.
Father Greg also made the great point recently that sending kids to Catholic school or even homeschooling them doesn’t shelter them (as if that is a bad thing)...what is not normal is sending kids to an environment where sex, drugs, and bad behavior and expecting kids to deal with it in an effort to get them used to society at large.
You are right and I saw this post on that other thread.
But you have to wonder where this guy has been if he’s only just discovering these things. It’s been that way from the beginning. I posted the following on the other thread as well.
http://nj.npri.org/nj98/05/prussian.htm
Another development added to the growing furor and revolution in American education. In the early 1800s, what is commonly known as the Ph.D. did not exist in the United States. Then a well connected American named Edward Everett went to Germany to take courses and returned to this country as the first American to receive a Ph.D. degree. Eventually, 10,000 of Americas wealthiest families would send their sons to obtain the Ph.D. in Prussian universities. Ultimately, this development would affect the educational and intellectual make up of the entire education system from kindergarten through college. These German trained Ph.D.s took over the educational establishment in the United States and anchored themselves in positions of political and economic power and influence. The substance of the course work in Prussian universities in tandem with the educational philosophy tended to be socialist and collectivist in nature. Consequently, the knowledge and mind set of the Prussian system were passed on to several generations of American intellectuals.
Implementation of the Prussian System Implementation of the Prussian system was to become the goal of Edward Everett, Americas first Ph.D. As Governor of Massachusetts, Everett had to deal with the problem of the influx of poor Irish Catholics into his state. In 1852, with the support of Horace Mann, another strong advocate of the Prussian model, Everett made the decision to adopt the Prussian system of education in Massachusetts. Unfortunately for the children and poor Irish Catholics of Massachusetts and elsewhere, the system produced a willing, cheap labor force with minimal reading and numbers skills. The Everetts of the world understood that people who could read and understand are dangerous because they are intellectually equipped to find out things for themselves, thus becoming a threat to already established power elites.
Shortly after Everett and Mann collaborated to adopt the Prussian system, the Governor of New York set up the same method in 12 different New York schools on a trial basis. Incredibly, within two weeks he declared the system a total success and took control of the entire education system in the State of New York. In a blitzkreig action with no debate, public hearing, or citizen involvement, government forced schooling was on its way in America.
Also here:
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/index.htm
more:
Education is a social-engineering method of implementing control, based on principles derived from sociology and psychology. The educational system that dominates America, and virtually all the West had its origins in Prussia, the brain-child of the collectivist philosopher, Johann Gottlieb Fichte, who said, The schools must fashion the person, and fashion him in such a way that he simply cannot will otherwise than what you wish him to will.
In the 1800s there were no Phd programs in America and more than 10,000 of Americas wealthiest families sent their sons to Prussian universities to obtain a Phd There they learned the Prussian education system. Americas first Phd was Edward Everett, who, as Governor of Massachusetts, together with another Phd, Horace Mann, who is considered the father of American education, established the Prussian system of education in 1852 in Massachusetts. Under the influence of these men, the Prussian system was set up in New York shortly after, and subsequently throughout the entire country.
http://usabig.com/iindv/articles_stand/revo_west/revolution6.php
Hank
Very very interesting.
But you have to wonder where this guy has been if hes only just discovering these things.
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Living under a rock?
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