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"Real" Unemployment Could Surge to 25%, Portfolio Manager Says
yahoo ^ | Mar 04, 2010 07:30am EST | by Heesun Wee in

Posted on 03/04/2010 10:39:23 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat

With Wednesday's ADP report and Thursday's jobless claims data laying the groundwork for Friday's unemployment report, there's an intense focus on jobs from Wall Street to Washington D.C. and beyond.

But there's really only one jobs figure that matters, says John Lekas, senior portfolio manager for the $320 million Leader Short-Term Bond Fund: The U-6 or "real" unemployment number.

U6 is more important than the headline unemployment rate because it includes both the unemployed and "underemployed" workers faced with reduced hours who "still can't pay their bills," Lekas tells Aaron in the accompanying clip. "I think that's a more representative number."

More jobs weakness ahead. More bearish than most, Lekas sees the headline unemployment rate rising to 10% in February and climbing to 15% or 16% by mid-year. Even more dire, he sees the "real" unemployment figure surging to 25%.

Lekas says companies still are focused on cutting costs and jobs to protect their top and bottom lines. Plus, an in-house compilation of household data shows Americans are under water, with unpaid bills and expenses outpacing income by hundreds of dollars a month. That should keep consumer spending down, which means less sales for companies and, thus, less incentive for them to add to payrolls.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0bamasfault; obamalegacy; obamanomics; obamasfault; porkulus

1 posted on 03/04/2010 10:39:24 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: Touch Not the Cat

Wow. Yahoo.

Doesn’t that mean we need higher taxes, more welfare and more harsh regulation of business??


2 posted on 03/04/2010 10:40:30 AM PST by GeronL (I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: Touch Not the Cat

//sarc


3 posted on 03/04/2010 10:40:48 AM PST by GeronL (I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: Touch Not the Cat
37% was the figure during the worst of the Great Depression.

U6 is what really matters, and it compares apples to oranges.

Expect the MSM to go above and beyond making excuses for Obama when the U6 number approaches 25%.


4 posted on 03/04/2010 10:45:25 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Shhhhhh! I'm golfing!

5 posted on 03/04/2010 10:47:49 AM PST by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: SkyPilot

What is that chart?

Unemployment in the U.S. during the Great Depression was 25%, not 37%...correct?

Maybe worldwide it was 37%...


6 posted on 03/04/2010 10:54:22 AM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Touch Not the Cat; All

Everybody is forgetting THE ONE MILLION PEOPLE Obama intends to Temp hire for the Census.
And they stay hired until just after the 2010 election.
Imagine that, eh???


7 posted on 03/04/2010 11:00:34 AM PST by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: Touch Not the Cat
U6 is more important than the headline unemployment rate because it includes both the unemployed and "underemployed" workers faced with reduced hours who "still can't pay their bills," Lekas tells Aaron in the accompanying clip. "I think that's a more representative number."

Good to see more articles about professional economists paying attention to the U6 vs U3 numbers. The more honest of us here at FR have been saying that for I'd say at least three years now.

8 posted on 03/04/2010 11:00:55 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Perhaps the Administration could read Economic Freedom and Employment Growth in U.S. States written by Thomas A. Garrett, Research Division, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis; and Russell M. Rhine, Department of Economics, St. Mary’s College of Maryland. In their conclusion, they state:

"For each period [1980-1990, 1990-2000, and 2000-2005], we find that states with greater overall economic freedom have greater rates of employment growth. Generally, a one-unit increase in the economic freedom index (roughly equal to one standard deviation) increases employment growth by 1 to 4 percentage points depending on specification. In addition, roughly 2 to 5 percent of the variation in employment growth across the states is explained by economic freedom."

9 posted on 03/04/2010 11:01:02 AM PST by tarpit
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Texas is doing better than most. I think ND and neighboring states are doing well due to real energy exploration and production. The same thing is happening in areas in PA where there is nat gas in the one region.

Domestic energy production could recapitalize America, generate taxes, wealth and jobs.


10 posted on 03/04/2010 11:10:05 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: GeronL
"...Doesn’t that mean we need higher taxes, more welfare and more harsh regulation of business???..."


You are precisely correct. You also keep beating me to the funny punchline! ;-)
Now more than ever we need taxes reduced to keep more money in citizen's pockets as they can spend it locally far better than government.
Business should feel free to expand without penalty, instead of feeling they will be crushed beneath more absurd corporate taxes.

11 posted on 03/04/2010 11:14:49 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

I think this is something of an outlier. While the picture is grim and is not fully represented in the offical government numbers, official numbers climbing another 6 or 7 points by the end of this year is inconceivable.


12 posted on 03/04/2010 11:21:06 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Touch Not the Cat
Hopey Changey jobless recovery.
13 posted on 03/04/2010 11:23:11 AM PST by MaxMax (Conservatism isn't a party)
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High unemployment? Not a problem. It’s the Obama Plan. More people out of work means more people reliant on the government. This makes the statists happy. It’s why they get up in the morning and go off to THEIR job.


14 posted on 03/04/2010 11:25:56 AM PST by Signalman
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YAHOO is reporting on “real” unemployment figures??? And explaining that there is a such thing as a U-6 figure?

Where is that sign for the town of Hell with ice dripping off of it?


15 posted on 03/04/2010 11:26:04 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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Do not worry about this stuff. Obama has lot’s of “shovel ready” jobs and as soon as he gets his Obamacare passed and our country committed to a few more trillion in dept, he’s leaving on an out of country trip to see if he can find where he misplaced them.


16 posted on 03/04/2010 11:26:09 AM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First FAILED "light skinned African American [Pres-ent] with no Negro dialect..")
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Well as long as we pay people so they don’t have to work, this will continue to go higher. What is it about welfare people don’t understand. The blacks are where they are because the “Great Society” put them back decades ... they still haven’t come out from under it ... yet they still vote for the people who did it to them. Amazing.


17 posted on 03/04/2010 12:55:09 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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