[livius]

In terms of the Obama care bill, yes, the big danger lies in the House.

But in terms of the Constitution and the Republic, the big danger lies in “reconciliation.”

[OldDeckHand]

This is why the lame-duck session of Congress this coming fall will be a dangerous, dangerous time.

[Dilbert San Diego]

The big danger I see is if the House passes the Senate bill. If they do, then Obama signs that version of health care “reform” into law. Then that version is the law of the land, subject to reconciliation.

The danger is that the Senate bill becomes the new baseline, the new status quo. After that, if reconciliation gets bogged down in either House or Senate, the Senate bill is still the law of the land at that point.

They will have won without even going through the whole reconciliation process if the House passes the Senate version of the bill.

[orinoco]

The House does not want parts of the Senate bill. They are being told by Obama that if they vote yes for the Senate bill Obama will sign it and the Senate will make good on their promise to write an amendment that would add and remove the pieces that Congressman do not want. The amendment would require only a simple majority to pass. However, if the Senate should decide to let their version of the bill stay as is an not amend it Obama has a nationalized healthcare bill but those congressman who expected the modifications will not get them implemented.
These congressman would have a difficult time explaining to their constituents why they voted for the Senate version.
If I were a congressman opposed to the Senate bill I would not allow myself to get taken in by this.
I do not think the House will get this Senate version passed.

[InterceptPoint]

THIS is the key paragraph from the article:

Pelosi, a member of the progressive caucus, made it clear that the Senate version was not acceptable and would not be the last word. She may change her mind at some point, but thus far, we’re not seeing much indication that enough of her Democratic caucus is willing to come along if she does. They’re only reluctantly proceeding with strategies to pass the Senate bill, conditional on passing a parallel bill that addresses their objections. The parallel bill is what would have to go through reconciliation, and now some Democrats have publicly insisted that the parallel bill would have to go through first. Harry Reid wants to use reconciliation to keep Republicans from filibustering the parallel bill and grinding the entire strategy to a halt.

Read that again: the parallel bill would have to go through first!!!!!!

There is NO WAY that can happen even with the corrupt Dems in charge. It violates all kinds of Senate Rules and probably several laws. But let them try. Plus the Republicans have the power to delay a bill like this moving through the Senate by endlessly offering up amendments, all of which have to be voted on. It is a DEAD END for the Dems.

[Vaduz]

Obama,congress and senate won’t be allowed into the healthscare program due to pre-xisting condition STUPIDITY.

[marstegreg]

“The real nightmare scenario isn’t that the House might pass the Senate bill now, or in April. It’s that Democrats might get stymied now, and then pass the Senate bill after the midterms in late November, and allow Obama to sign it into law well after the time when voters have held them accountable for their radical agenda.”

I’m not so sure about this. If I was thrown under the bus, I might not be too happy about it. I know that at least some of them will be very unhappy with the White House for ending their gravy train. I would be.

[fortheDeclaration]

Yes, if the House passes the Senate version unchanged (unlikely) it would be signed into Law.