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Drivers complain that Toyota's fixes didn't work
The Washington Post ^ | March 4, 2010 | Tom Krisher and Ken Thomas

Posted on 03/04/2010 12:35:51 AM PST by myknowledge

DETROIT -- At least 15 Toyota drivers have complained to U.S. safety officials that their cars sped up by themselves even after being fixed under recalls for sticky gas pedals or floor mat problems, according to an Associated Press analysis.

The development raises questions about whether Toyota's repairs will bring an end to the cases of wild, uncontrolled acceleration or if there may be electronic causes behind the complaints that have dogged the automaker.

Although the allegations were unverified by the agency, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Wednesday it was contacting people who have complained about acceleration problems even after repairs were done under two large recalls. The agency wants to hear from others who have had similar troubles, it said.

"If Toyota owners are still experiencing sudden acceleration incidents after taking their cars to the dealership, we want to know about it," agency administrator David Strickland said in a statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automakers; defectivecars; junkcars; nhtsa; recall; toyota
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Sticky gas pedals are not the only problem plaguing the latest Toyotas. Electronic components may also come under scrutiny.

1 posted on 03/04/2010 12:35:52 AM PST by myknowledge
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To: myknowledge

I had this happen on an old oldmobile I had one time...
I am betting it is cruise control related... Either the driver is hitting resume on the cruise control or it is somehow shorting out and resuming on it’s own...

If it is Toyota... I want my diag fee!


2 posted on 03/04/2010 12:45:53 AM PST by AzNASCARfan
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To: myknowledge

I have relatives who buy and sell cars for a living and have been doing so for several decades, wholesalers, and mainly Hondas and Toyotas. None of them have ever seen, heard of, or spoken to anybody else who has ever seen or heard of one of these incidents.


3 posted on 03/04/2010 12:47:22 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: AzNASCARfan

Edmunds is offering a $1 Million reward for anyone who can pinpoint and reproduce the problem.


4 posted on 03/04/2010 12:50:07 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: myknowledge

I had it happen with a ‘99 Mazda with a standard transmission. Oddest thing. It would hit 3,000 rpms even when shifted into neutral. Had to take it in a couple times, they charged me the first visit to clean the injectors (got that money back. At 5,000 miles cleaning them was idiotic). They found a fix but I never was told what it was.


5 posted on 03/04/2010 12:51:10 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Spktyr

Wouldn’t surprise me if this turns out to be much ado about nothing like the alar in apples scare in the 1980s


6 posted on 03/04/2010 12:56:35 AM PST by Chet 99
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To: myknowledge

the complainers want a new car


7 posted on 03/04/2010 1:04:31 AM PST by element92
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To: element92
BINGO!

prisoner6

8 posted on 03/04/2010 1:07:24 AM PST by prisoner6 (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered! I am a FREE MAN!)
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To: myknowledge

Is it too late to spill some coffee in my lap? I even own a Toyota.


9 posted on 03/04/2010 1:07:42 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: myknowledge
Kind of like the way a past Edwards vasectomy didn't maybe work?
10 posted on 03/04/2010 1:26:04 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: wendy1946

Thats because the WAPO, and the rest of the MSM are doing Maobama’s bidding of vilifying Toyota while protecting GM..aka Gubmint’ Motors.

Whenever I see wash Post, I always ask the question: what liberal, pro-obama crap are these tools going to write about today?


11 posted on 03/04/2010 1:26:49 AM PST by max americana
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To: myknowledge

‘Drivers’ or paid union thugs ?


12 posted on 03/04/2010 1:34:43 AM PST by libh8er
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To: myknowledge

15 people scheduled for upcoming traffic court dates for speeding assure the safety board that the car did it all on it’s own!!


13 posted on 03/04/2010 1:35:34 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: wendy1946

Very good point, I know no one who has heard of this either.


14 posted on 03/04/2010 1:39:55 AM PST by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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To: wendy1946

I think this is now MASS HYSTERIA FICTION!


15 posted on 03/04/2010 1:47:52 AM PST by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: AzNASCARfan
Either the driver is hitting resume on the cruise control or it is somehow shorting out and resuming on it’s own...

Pretty good theory . I really thought everyone was trained by family or drivers ed , that a sticking accelerator was always a possibility and the secret is to remain calm , attempt to pull up on the pedal , and shift into neutral if need be . It was reported one driver experiencing the sudden acceleration problem , drove directly to the dealer by shifting in and out of gear . A lot better than calling someone on the cell phone while approaching traffic at over 100 mph .

16 posted on 03/04/2010 2:20:36 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: element92

Maybe, or it is a programmed effort to take sales from Toyota in te hopes they will go to Government Motors, which is failing badly even afetr the many billions of tax dollars it has received.

Nothing this Administration does these days surprises me.


17 posted on 03/04/2010 2:25:31 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: myknowledge

Toyota needs to buy these 15 cars from the owners for a full , new car price, then ask for volunteer drivers to use them in their normal daily routine, see if it happens. I’ll take one.


18 posted on 03/04/2010 3:03:47 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: myknowledge

Unfortunately, I believe the on board computer only stores the last five or so minutes of data. That could tell what was really happening if the data were retrieved in time. I suspect inadvertent activation of, or the driver forgetting they turned on, the cruise control in most of these cases. This problem is software related, either caused by a bug or operator error.


19 posted on 03/04/2010 3:10:29 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: kbennkc
drove directly to the dealer by shifting in and out of gear

I bet that worked just great. They had to replace the transmission and tires also.

Try holding the gas down and shifting like that.

It would ruin the transmission and burn the tires off from spinning

20 posted on 03/04/2010 3:31:56 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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