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Another new twist in birth certificate story: Hawaii "paper copy was destroyed in a fire"
World Net Daily ^ | March 2, 2010 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 03/03/2010 2:11:25 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The Hawaii Department of Health claims to have an original copy of Barack Obama's birth certificate, right?

In fact, it is this established "fact" that has persuaded so many people there is nothing to the question of eligibility.

After all, an official in Hawaii has made a public pronouncement that she has inspected the document and declared on her own authority that Obama is a "natural born American" and thus eligible to serve as president.

For many Americans, that settles the question.

However, now a new version of the story is emerging.

The United Kingdom's Sky News reported Saturday: "Authorities in Hawaii have provided an electronic record of Obama's birth because the paper copy was destroyed in a fire which wiped out much of the state's archives."

Which is it?

Does Hawaii actually have an original long-form, paper birth certificate for Obama, or was it destroyed in a fire?

It seems the story is ever-changing.

And that's why it's time for Obama to come clean.

There is little question the heavily Democratic state of Hawaii has no interest in providing any information that would disqualify the first president claiming to be from that state.

If indeed the state has a copy of the original birth certificate, as Director of Health Dr. Chiyome Fukino claims, it should be no problem for Obama to give her permission to release it publicly – and, once and for all, settle the controversy that has resulted in that state being inundated with inquiries from curious American citizens.

Fukino has released two public statements on this matter.(continued)

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KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; usurper
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To: bgill

Nowhere in the Constitution, nowhere in US law, and nowhere in any decision of the US Supreme Court does it say that a president has to be born of two US citizens.
In fact the 14th Amendment says “ALL persons born or naturalized...” The courts in literally hundreds of cases have affirmed that since the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868, there are only two classes of United States citizenship for every American including Presidents, Vice Presidents and candidates for the presidency: born citizens and naturalized citizens. Born citizens can be president and naturalized citizens cannot.
So the taxi is relevant. Where in the United States a person was born is not constitutionally relevant. You don’t have to be born in a hospital to be a born citizen.
President Chester A. Arthur’s father was born in Ireland.


261 posted on 03/04/2010 11:11:23 AM PST by jamese777
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To: DJ MacWoW

Under Hawaii law, any out of state birth or delayed registration of birth must say that on the short form COLB.
The director of the Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born American citizen.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm


262 posted on 03/04/2010 11:14:54 AM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
Not in 61. And his COLB online is a fake anyway.

And using USA Today is a joke!

263 posted on 03/04/2010 11:16:34 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Do you see ANY names on any of the birth announcements in the Honolulu Advertiser for Sunday, August 13, 1961?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif


264 posted on 03/04/2010 11:21:09 AM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
Obama's Certification Was Not Issued by Hawaii You Tube
265 posted on 03/04/2010 11:22:36 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
"Anybody could get a Hawaiian COLB."

Actually... no. Only somebody with a Hawaiian long form birth certificate can get a Hawaiian COLB.

And no one could get any Hawaiian document (even in 1961) that said they were born in Hawaii if they were not.
266 posted on 03/04/2010 11:23:02 AM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: jamese777

Do you see anything that states it was Barack? Do you see where it states he was born in a hospital in Hawaii? What hospital does it say? Hmmm?


267 posted on 03/04/2010 11:24:04 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: EnderWiggins

Yes troll. They could. Online proof has been saved before the online references were taken down.


268 posted on 03/04/2010 11:25:27 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Don’t like USA Today, here’s a link to the Director of the Hawaii Department Health’s original source press release, enjoy!
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf


269 posted on 03/04/2010 11:26:44 AM PST by jamese777
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To: DJ MacWoW

And yet... you can’t show it to us.


270 posted on 03/04/2010 11:29:26 AM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: DJ MacWoW

Do you see anything that states it was Barack? Do you see where it states he was born in a hospital in Hawaii? What hospital does it say? Hmmm?


Where in the Constitution does it say that a president has to be born in a hospital? Look out George Washington, they want you to be ineligible!
The Constitutional requirements to be president or vice president in Article 2, Section 1 are: birth in the United States, 35 years of age, and 14 years residence in the US. PERIOD.


271 posted on 03/04/2010 11:30:38 AM PST by jamese777
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To: EnderWiggins

I won’t. We are no longer feeding the left.


272 posted on 03/04/2010 11:32:06 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: jamese777

Tell me where Okubo got her powers to rule on Constitutional matters?


273 posted on 03/04/2010 11:33:28 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You can’t. And it’s a wonder you can feed yourself.


274 posted on 03/04/2010 11:34:15 AM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: DJ MacWoW

YOU TUBE????? Now there’s a reliable source!
The state of Hawaii has confirmed Obama’s birth records.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

That may not be good enough for you, but its been good enough for Congress and for the Judicial system.
The vote on the resolution for Hawaii’s 50th Anniversary of statehood which proclaimed Hawaii to be the birthplace of Barack Obama was 393-0 in the House and 63 lawsuits have been adjudicated with regard to Obama’s eligibility including 7 at the US Supreme Court and no plaintiff has yet prevailed in any of them.
Not one single Congressman/woman or Senator challenged the certification of Obama’s Electoral votes when Vice President Cheney counted them before a joint session of Congress.


275 posted on 03/04/2010 11:38:52 AM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
Where in the Constitution does it say that a president has to be born in a hospital?

HE said he was born in a hospital.

Look out George Washington, they want you to be ineligible!

Obfuscation. Georges parents became US citizens.

Article 2, Section 1 are: birth in the United States, 35 years of age, and 14 years residence in the US. PERIOD.

Not a correct paraphrase.

Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

I have no time for your silliness. You've proved nothing.

276 posted on 03/04/2010 11:39:01 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: EnderWiggins
I won't. You area troll and we are no longer feeding them.

Have a hungry day. :-)

277 posted on 03/04/2010 11:39:59 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You can’t. I’m more of an ogre, and I am already extremely well fed.

Thanks otherwise for your concern.


278 posted on 03/04/2010 11:41:23 AM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: jamese777
The state of Hawaii has confirmed Obama’s birth records.

Show me where ANY of them verify the COLB on Factcheck.

Have a busy day!

279 posted on 03/04/2010 11:41:30 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

It was Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health not Janice Okubo, Communications Director for the state health department and she is the Hawaii governmental official authorized by statute to verify birth records which is a state’s right issue not a federal issue.


280 posted on 03/04/2010 11:42:57 AM PST by jamese777
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