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1 posted on 03/02/2010 10:59:44 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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B*stards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 03/02/2010 11:00:43 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.........
Do it!
3 posted on 03/02/2010 11:03:00 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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C’mon deminazis put your ole john hancock on the dotted line. Don’t these putzes realize that if they create another entitlement, the entitled will seek leaders that can actually can manage something to keep their entitlement flowing. The desire for competency rarely works in the dem favor. Just sayin.


4 posted on 03/02/2010 11:06:34 AM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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Longest suicide ever.

In the end, I don't think they'll get it done. There aren't enough of them willing to hari kari themselves for Pelosi and Obama.

Either way, they have boxed themselves into a miserable corner.

6 posted on 03/02/2010 11:06:59 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Flush twice its a long way to Congress..


7 posted on 03/02/2010 11:07:33 AM PST by aeonspromise
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"We're talking to making backroom deals with everybody," Hoyer said

That's better

8 posted on 03/02/2010 11:10:44 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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There is no need for Reconciliation unless the Senate wants to change its own bill.

I still fear that the House will get the votes to pass the Senate version of the bill; the White House and the two chambers will be unable to get any changes all can agree on and, given no other choice (sarcasm), Obama will sign the Senate bill. It was approved in identical versions by both Houses, so it is ready to be signed into law.

This will infuriate a number of Democrats (in addition to virtually every Repub and Independent), but this White House doesn't care. Socialism triumphs.

Unless I am missing something (and I hope I am), I don't see the legal reason why Obama can't simply sign the Senate bill, as written, after the House approves it.

A cynical view, but, there is no honor with this bunch anymore.

17 posted on 03/02/2010 11:19:30 AM PST by dan on the right
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19 posted on 03/02/2010 11:25:29 AM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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Democrats who vote for Hussein's Plan:
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21 posted on 03/02/2010 11:32:33 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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Another day and another sea of Obama /Pelosi press releases refaxed by the obedient Obama state media outlets.

Please note that every day since the phony sum mitt bombed the Sate Media has spit out another Propaganda piece stating the dame crap.

This is Linda Douglas formerly of ABC handy work !

22 posted on 03/02/2010 11:34:55 AM PST by ncalburt (e)
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Democrats preparing to use reconciliation...
Johnny Ringo
"Let's Do It...Lunger."


23 posted on 03/02/2010 11:37:23 AM PST by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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27 posted on 03/02/2010 11:46:24 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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“IT” The Monolith/Pyramid Scheme:

The “YOU CARD”

- - - - - - Vampire-Care Healthcare Backed Securities...treasuries, govt. deficit reduction guarantees to the Chinese/other investors) Forced work-based securities Monolith.- - - - - - -

217,800,000 adult population, (last census)

108,900,000 1/2 (minus approx. public/govt. workers)

$10,890,000,000 (based on super conservative of $100 per capita forced threat/fines higher) Forced WORKED-BASED.

1. Forced card birth fee/taxed. Registered from birth for life.

2. Forced program. Then programS. Inspections

3. Forced incremental programs

4. Reduce by cost (benefits) 1 (administrative Monolith rake off). Govt. panel

5. Reduced by cost 2 (first year cost, % to Eastern-Beltway Monolith, increased-leveraged at will. % increased based on % to private insurance (temp??)

6. Reduced by cost 3? (unknown rake-offs)

VBS scheme. Vampire Backed Securities.

Desperation at all costs for passage.

Show the “You” Card: Your papers.


29 posted on 03/02/2010 11:50:43 AM PST by Varsity Flight
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How do they get away calling this process Reconciliation ? Its only when two or more ideas come together there can be a reconciliation. Words have no absolute meanings to these people. They call themselfs progressives, yet their policies are backwards and as old as dictators since their goal is to be just that, they say they are pro choice but they really want to take away the choice of some female babies to live, they say they are anti war anti gun but will have no problem in sending armed police to haul away people who don’t obey their planned legislations that tell us how much water we can have in our tolits, whatknod of light bulb or car we can drive, when our kids can pray. They say they are for free speach but won’t allow the bible to be spoken in their schools. Every phrase and word they use will have just the oppisite meaning, and what’s worse is the press just parrots their laungage! Reconciliation my @+!#*@;#


40 posted on 03/02/2010 12:30:11 PM PST by seastay
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41 posted on 03/02/2010 1:03:56 PM PST by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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The fact on this matter is very simple. If they are able to pass the bill through reconciliation they have not done so long time ago when they were in much better political shape. The reason they have not done it is because they cannot. With reconciliation they are going to pass a totally meaningless bill and that is it.
43 posted on 03/02/2010 1:40:33 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543

Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins.
(DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake. http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2462143/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
Snip The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Snip

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


46 posted on 03/02/2010 4:01:52 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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