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To: Free ThinkerNY
There is no need for Reconciliation unless the Senate wants to change its own bill.

I still fear that the House will get the votes to pass the Senate version of the bill; the White House and the two chambers will be unable to get any changes all can agree on and, given no other choice (sarcasm), Obama will sign the Senate bill. It was approved in identical versions by both Houses, so it is ready to be signed into law.

This will infuriate a number of Democrats (in addition to virtually every Repub and Independent), but this White House doesn't care. Socialism triumphs.

Unless I am missing something (and I hope I am), I don't see the legal reason why Obama can't simply sign the Senate bill, as written, after the House approves it.

A cynical view, but, there is no honor with this bunch anymore.

17 posted on 03/02/2010 11:19:30 AM PST by dan on the right
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To: dan on the right
I don't see the legal reason why Obama can't simply sign the Senate bill, as written, after the House approves it.

You are correct: once both houses pass the same bill, the president can sign it and it becomes law.

That's why many in the House insist that the Senate go first. It is doubtful that there are enough votes in the House to pass the Senate bill as written, without iron-clad guarantees that certain changes will be made by the Senate afterward. The proposal is to use reconciliation to pass the changes, but there are two reasons that can't be done. First, one of the big changes involves the Stupak amendments guaranteeing that the legislation does not cover abortion. That's not in the Senate bill. Nor is it a "budget" issue, meaning it can't be the subject of reconciliation. So Stupak and his allies have no reason to believe that their concerns will be addressed. They are therefore likely to vote 'no' unless the Senate goes first and adopts serious anti-abortion language.

Secondly, although reconciliation only requires 51 votes to pass the bill, the process allows for an infinite number of amendments. Each of those also requires 51 votes. By throwing one amendment after another into the gears, the Republicans can tie the Senate in knots through November. The only way to halt the amendments is with — wait for it — 60 votes.

This article, and others like it, are a circus act designed to pacify the Donks' base. They can't pass this thing and they know it. But they're gonna 'try' a whole bunch, and then blame the Republicans when it doesn't pass.

It's over, folks. We dodged the bullet again. No president will try this again for another 20 years.


24 posted on 03/02/2010 11:38:15 AM PST by Nick Danger (Pin the fail on the donkey)
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To: dan on the right

That is precisely the plan -

...they don’t really care if the subsequent proposed changes (supposedly incorporating Rep ideas) ever get passed into law


25 posted on 03/02/2010 11:40:59 AM PST by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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