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I find it amusing, the pro-gun side is very cautious, while the anti-gun side is freaking out. I think we’ll get more than we expect, less than we want and the anti’s will be shocked at what comes next.
Bang>>>>
The reason the Second Amendment DOES apply to the states is simple: The TEXT of the Second Amendment. Unlike the First Amendment, the Second Amendment doesn’t say “Congress shall make no law” or anything resembling that.
Even without the bogus “incorporation doctrine,” the Second Amendment applies to ALL levels of government.
Currently, the only citizens allowed to carry guns are the Alderman, guess who’s shitting their pants now eh?
Just an observation that the gun laws in Chicago don’t seem to make any difference. The well armed youth gangs have turned vast areas of that city into a war zone. Some of the gangs have better weapons than the police.
As far as our 2nd amendment rights are concerned, I always thought the plain language of the 2nd amendment was pretty clear. If the Supreme Court reinforces the meaning that is plainly spelled out, it will help set good legal precedents, and strike a blow for common sense. The liberals have used pretzel logic to try to tell us that the 2nd amendment doesn’t really mean what it says. And that pretzel logic is what’s behind such laws as Chicago’s handgun ban, which as noted, is ignored by the gangs anyway.
“At the same time, the court could say it is not “a right to parade around the street with a gun,” Stevens said.”
Good old John Paul. Yeah that’s right JP, concealed carry owners shouldn’t brandish their guns over their heads, like the Music Man and his baton, leading a parade down the street.
And where was J. Sodapop? Getting coffee for the guys at Starbucks?
So does this mean that Tank Williams is not a criminal after all?
If Kennedy votes to overturn the Chicago gun ban and that the 2nd Amendment applies to state, he clearly deserves the award for “Most Improved Supreme Court Justice”.
He has really come around in recent years voting to uphold the ban on partial birth abortions and overturning campaign finance laws.
I wonder if he might be ready to vote with Thomas, Scalia, Roberts and Alito to overturn Roe v. Wade?
Let the experiment begin—and the crime stats.
>> Chief Justice Roberts all but forecast the court would issue an opinion that avoids deciding the harder questions about whether guns can be carried in public as well as kept at home.
Justices are not permitted to answer questions that are not asked ... they are deciding an individual case, not crafting legislation about the limitations of the Second amendment. The right to carry is not what the case is about. Further questions must be answered in further cases.
SnakeDoc
the homeowners association, city, county, state, fed and possibly international levels will begin the new round of reasonable 'regulation' with the full force of gov like weve only conspiratoized in the past...
my .02
Thank God Bush gave us Roberts and Alito!
Forget quibbling about what it all means! What about the simple declarative sentence THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP OWN AND BEAR CARRY ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. ???
I just worry about the health of those key five justices and the probability of any one of them being replaced by an obama nomination.
There's our fifth vote - case closed. Kennedy was the only justice out of the five needed who anyone considered wobbly.
The only thing we need to worry about now is if the opinion will be written in such a way that crafty liberals will be able to drive a truck through the language.
Why don’t gun owners argue for a “right to privacy” the way the abortion crowd does? If they have a right to privacy, why not us?
Turn their arguments around on them!
It’s the MOST important right insured by the Constitution. (Mao said so)
I just finished reading the BRIEF OF AMICUS CURIAE filed by th ADL in support of Chicago, in defense of retaining the ban on firearms ownership.
Basically the ADL’s contention is - The country is filled with hate groups, anti-government groups and hate criminals. The US is in a “rage” over Obama’s election; therefore everyone is going to purchase a gun and go on a shooting spree.
According to their warped logic any anti-Government protest is hate, every crime is hate related, anti-government speech is hate, objection to Obama is; yes you got it, hate.
OH NOES!!!
Americans should have no constitutional rights until they walk in lock-step with the ADL’s position on every issue. They even defend, as they call it, “common sense” restrictions on speech, as a reason to ban firearms.
I was surprised they didn’t name Tea Parties, Townhall meetings and marches on DC as hate movements; though you can read their “hate” of them between the lines as they claim hate groups are on the rise since Obama was put into office. We can’t have people speaking out against “The Won” or the government in the ADL’s fantasy world.
Here’s to hope the USSC slaps down Chicago along with the ADL and restores rights the government and courts never had the power to take away in the first place.